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    #16
    Originally posted by Fubar View Post
    saw this on a blog on the mirror website and thought it was an interesting point of view.


    Anyone who has walked down Bold Street in the heart of Liverpool city centre will have noticed a large poster adorning the outer wall of the Burger King restaurant on the corner proclaiming 'the home of the Whopper'. Seasoned Liverpool supporters would argue that the sign would be more fitting if plastered across the exterior of Anfield.

    With the Reds' failure to carry on where they finished last season, the club had to resort to marketing techniques frequently used by local rivals Everton by having to sell tickets for the match against Wigan over the counter at their official club store in the bustling Liverpool One shopping centre.

    Given that this was the game where the club marked the 50th anniversary of Bill Shankly's arrival at the club, one would expect this to be a sell-out. Only 41,116 supporters, 800 of whom were travelling Latics fans, watched Rafael Benitez's side run out 2-1 winners in a nervy finish.

    The reason for the reduced capacity crowd and the over-the-counter sales was because the people who normally occupy those additional few thousand seats don't care about Bill Shankly, or what he did for Liverpool.

    Furthermore, they aren't going to travel to Merseyside on a cold Wednesday night in December for all the hot dogs in Anfield unless Manchester United or Chelsea are playing at L4. This is because Liverpool Football Club has become a victim of its own success - and success, like the Pied Piper of Hamelin, attracts more than its fair share of rats.

    Many a glory-hunting rodent has strode up Walton Breck Road over the past five years as the club marched on to European finals and nerve-wracking title races but as soon as success dries up, they will spearhead the mass exodus out from Anfield. It happened in the latter days of Gerard Houllier’s reign and, given current events, it will happen during Benitez’s time.

    They will crawl back to their familiar rocks of Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford once the good times stop rolling. However, they will be back, and in greater numbers once success returns, but real Liverpool supporters, regardless of their personal views on Benitez, will back the manager of the club to the hilt until he resigns or is sacked by a higher power.

    It is not in their nature to pander to national radio hosts’ demands by calling for the manager to be sacked and replaced by Jose Mourinho, turning a very blind eye to the Reds’ financial plight and the small matter of Benitez’s £20million pay-off should he be dismissed before his contract expires.

    Nor is it in their nature to call for the manager’s head on the Kop following a frustrating draw, dressed head-to-toe in a jester hat, a Superman cape and home shirt with ‘comical’ slogans on the back; El Sexy 69 and Crouchenko to name but two.

    However, those who maintain that Benitez should be supported, even if he is making an absolute pig’s ear of the season due to stretched resources, are accused of being personal apologists for the Spaniard; further evidence, were it needed, that the modern football supporter has lost his way.

    As Liverpool prepare for a strong winter of discontent, a banner which proclaimed: "it's easy to support a team when in glory, but to support a team when in struggle…shows your character" could not be more apt for those who will continue to support their football club through thick and thin.
    Sensational post I personally think most people online fall into this category, you would not want to go into battle with half of these gob****es ..

    A Rafa is for life not just Christmas
    Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
    #****CITY

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      #17
      Sound like utter tossers dressing up.

      However: I get to Anfield a lot less than I'd like, but I'd like to say that when I do it's just as much the old ST holders who make no noise as OOTers. I tend to make infinitely more noise than a lot of the older seen-it-all-before types cos gettign there is a treat.

      I'd also say that people dont have the time & money to travel as much just before xmas.

      Empty seats might make the Septics think though.
      3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Chris View Post
        You're not this stupid surely?

        Of course we need a new stadium, we are absolutely desperate for it. And Wigan at home on a week night near xmas is obviously going to be one of the lower attendances.

        And by the way, we dont count our attendances as tickets sold, we do people through the door so will technically never have a sell out. Whereas Arsenal seem to just announce 60k everytime despite looking like there was at least 10k empty seats against Hull on the weekend.
        We may well need a new stadium but not if its at the detriment of the financial stability of the club. I still don't ever see us filling out a 70,000 seater to the extent that the Mancs do.
        Last edited by FatTony; 21-12-09, 01:32 PM.

        "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

        I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

        FatTony 24/08/09

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          #19
          Originally posted by FatTony View Post
          Oh well thats so ****ing stupid isn't it, fancy not knowing that attendance is significantly different to tickets sold...
          No, stupid was questioning whether we need a new stadium just because we didnt get a perfect attendance at home to Wigan on a weeknight near xmas.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Chris View Post
            No, stupid was questioning whether we need a new stadium just because we didnt get a perfect attendance at home to Wigan on a weeknight near xmas.
            edited my original post

            "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

            I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

            FatTony 24/08/09

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              #21
              Originally posted by Fubar View Post
              saw this on a blog on the mirror website and thought it was an interesting point of view.


              Anyone who has walked down Bold Street in the heart of Liverpool city centre will have noticed a large poster adorning the outer wall of the Burger King restaurant on the corner proclaiming 'the home of the Whopper'. Seasoned Liverpool supporters would argue that the sign would be more fitting if plastered across the exterior of Anfield.

              With the Reds' failure to carry on where they finished last season, the club had to resort to marketing techniques frequently used by local rivals Everton by having to sell tickets for the match against Wigan over the counter at their official club store in the bustling Liverpool One shopping centre.

              Given that this was the game where the club marked the 50th anniversary of Bill Shankly's arrival at the club, one would expect this to be a sell-out. Only 41,116 supporters, 800 of whom were travelling Latics fans, watched Rafael Benitez's side run out 2-1 winners in a nervy finish.

              The reason for the reduced capacity crowd and the over-the-counter sales was because the people who normally occupy those additional few thousand seats don't care about Bill Shankly, or what he did for Liverpool.

              Furthermore, they aren't going to travel to Merseyside on a cold Wednesday night in December for all the hot dogs in Anfield unless Manchester United or Chelsea are playing at L4. This is because Liverpool Football Club has become a victim of its own success - and success, like the Pied Piper of Hamelin, attracts more than its fair share of rats.

              Many a glory-hunting rodent has strode up Walton Breck Road over the past five years as the club marched on to European finals and nerve-wracking title races but as soon as success dries up, they will spearhead the mass exodus out from Anfield. It happened in the latter days of Gerard Houllier’s reign and, given current events, it will happen during Benitez’s time.

              They will crawl back to their familiar rocks of Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford once the good times stop rolling. However, they will be back, and in greater numbers once success returns, but real Liverpool supporters, regardless of their personal views on Benitez, will back the manager of the club to the hilt until he resigns or is sacked by a higher power.

              It is not in their nature to pander to national radio hosts’ demands by calling for the manager to be sacked and replaced by Jose Mourinho, turning a very blind eye to the Reds’ financial plight and the small matter of Benitez’s £20million pay-off should he be dismissed before his contract expires.

              Nor is it in their nature to call for the manager’s head on the Kop following a frustrating draw, dressed head-to-toe in a jester hat, a Superman cape and home shirt with ‘comical’ slogans on the back; El Sexy 69 and Crouchenko to name but two.

              However, those who maintain that Benitez should be supported, even if he is making an absolute pig’s ear of the season due to stretched resources, are accused of being personal apologists for the Spaniard; further evidence, were it needed, that the modern football supporter has lost his way.

              As Liverpool prepare for a strong winter of discontent, a banner which proclaimed: "it's easy to support a team when in glory, but to support a team when in struggle…shows your character" could not be more apt for those who will continue to support their football club through thick and thin.
              So will the Sand People.
              Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


              Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Chris View Post
                You're not this stupid surely?

                Of course we need a new stadium, we are absolutely desperate for it. And Wigan at home on a week night near xmas is obviously going to be one of the lower attendances.

                And by the way, we dont count our attendances as tickets sold, we do people through the door so will technically never have a sell out. Whereas Arsenal seem to just announce 60k everytime despite looking like there was at least 10k empty seats against Hull on the weekend.
                I live in an area which is mainly Gooner and three of my ST holding neighbours all swerved the Hull game on the basis "its cold, the weather's going to get worse and its only Hull".
                Are you the Judean People's Front?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by slinky skills View Post
                  so will the sand people.
                  flmao

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
                    So will the Sand People.
                    hahaha
                    3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Reece View Post
                      flmao
                      Ha ha!!
                      Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."


                      Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Fubar View Post
                        saw this on a blog on the mirror website and thought it was an interesting point of view.


                        Anyone who has walked down Bold Street in the heart of Liverpool city centre will have noticed a large poster adorning the outer wall of the Burger King restaurant on the corner proclaiming 'the home of the Whopper'. Seasoned Liverpool supporters would argue that the sign would be more fitting if plastered across the exterior of Anfield.

                        With the Reds' failure to carry on where they finished last season, the club had to resort to marketing techniques frequently used by local rivals Everton by having to sell tickets for the match against Wigan over the counter at their official club store in the bustling Liverpool One shopping centre.

                        Given that this was the game where the club marked the 50th anniversary of Bill Shankly's arrival at the club, one would expect this to be a sell-out. Only 41,116 supporters, 800 of whom were travelling Latics fans, watched Rafael Benitez's side run out 2-1 winners in a nervy finish.

                        The reason for the reduced capacity crowd and the over-the-counter sales was because the people who normally occupy those additional few thousand seats don't care about Bill Shankly, or what he did for Liverpool.

                        Furthermore, they aren't going to travel to Merseyside on a cold Wednesday night in December for all the hot dogs in Anfield unless Manchester United or Chelsea are playing at L4. This is because Liverpool Football Club has become a victim of its own success - and success, like the Pied Piper of Hamelin, attracts more than its fair share of rats.

                        Many a glory-hunting rodent has strode up Walton Breck Road over the past five years as the club marched on to European finals and nerve-wracking title races but as soon as success dries up, they will spearhead the mass exodus out from Anfield. It happened in the latter days of Gerard Houllier’s reign and, given current events, it will happen during Benitez’s time.

                        They will crawl back to their familiar rocks of Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford once the good times stop rolling. However, they will be back, and in greater numbers once success returns, but real Liverpool supporters, regardless of their personal views on Benitez, will back the manager of the club to the hilt until he resigns or is sacked by a higher power.

                        It is not in their nature to pander to national radio hosts’ demands by calling for the manager to be sacked and replaced by Jose Mourinho, turning a very blind eye to the Reds’ financial plight and the small matter of Benitez’s £20million pay-off should he be dismissed before his contract expires.

                        Nor is it in their nature to call for the manager’s head on the Kop following a frustrating draw, dressed head-to-toe in a jester hat, a Superman cape and home shirt with ‘comical’ slogans on the back; El Sexy 69 and Crouchenko to name but two.

                        However, those who maintain that Benitez should be supported, even if he is making an absolute pig’s ear of the season due to stretched resources, are accused of being personal apologists for the Spaniard; further evidence, were it needed, that the modern football supporter has lost his way.

                        As Liverpool prepare for a strong winter of discontent, a banner which proclaimed:"it's easy to support a team when in glory, but to support a team when in struggle…shows your character" could not be more apt for those who will continue to support their football club through thick and thin.

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                          #27
                          Another post asking fans to be unquestioning cap-doffers to the manager no matter how bad he is for the club. It is out of lifelong love for Liverpool that I am strongly opposed to the man currently in charge. Articles like this effectively require Reds to support the manager over the club. It's a ridiculous servile attitude. I am opposed to anything that harms Liverpool FC and that man is dragging the club into a mire.

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                            #28
                            Cheers Shaggy, that clears it up. Often wondered how the compensation package worked out

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                              It's a fact, that's just how it works. Mark Hughes is in the same boat...
                              I remember we ended up paying Houiller and his crew 10m when we got rid of them (that was the audited number in the accounts, so it's reliable). Given how much wages have risen and how much bigger the back room staff is these days, I wouldn't be surprised if all in it did end up costing us close to 20m to transition to a new management team.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Marsh View Post
                                a bloke i work with is a steward at old toilet. he says that they count all the corporate seats etc as attending every game.

                                Most places count tickets sold rather than clicks on the turnstile.
                                Bill Oddie, Bill Oddie, put your hands all over my body.

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