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Valuefinder=Nic
When he was a liverpool 'fan' Nic used to criticize Pepe on here saying he isn't good enough. Nowadays he admits that he has lost interest in Liverpool and generally just follows football. And he's irish.
That should explain the opening post.
Shay Given is a world class shot stopper, but what lets him down is his decision-making. Too often he doesn't come for crosses that he should be collecting comfortably
Reina is all-round perfection
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Originally posted by -V- View PostValuefinder=Nic
When he was a liverpool 'fan' Nic used to criticize Pepe on here saying he isn't good enough. Nowadays he admits that he has lost interest in Liverpool and generally just follows football. And he's irish.
That should explain the opening post.
Shay Given is a world class shot stopper, but what lets him down is his decision-making. Too often he doesn't come for crosses that he should be collecting comfortably
Reina is all-round perfection
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Originally posted by -V- View PostValuefinder=Nic
When he was a liverpool 'fan' Nic used to criticize Pepe on here saying he isn't good enough. Nowadays he admits that he has lost interest in Liverpool and generally just follows football. And he's irish.
That should explain the opening post.
Shay Given is a world class shot stopper, but what lets him down is his decision-making. Too often he doesn't come for crosses that he should be collecting comfortably
Reina is all-round perfection


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Aye, but if I had a website to promote, I'd at least make sensible posts that don't make me out to be an idiotOriginally posted by Willo View PostNic has a website to promote methinks...Last edited by Fierce; 20-01-10, 12:46 PM.I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet
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I hope they do, he is ****.Originally posted by lfc View Postwell we will see if united get there hands on valdes latter on it should be some great games/saves to watch
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Thanks Reece.Originally posted by Reece View PostWas gonna close this one too but it might just be more fun to watch everyone laugh at Nic

Originally posted by ValueFinder View PostLiverpool have a core of genuine top quality players. Only the blind can't see that the rest are dross but in Reina we have a gem, so much so that he ranks all the way up at no.2 in the premiership and no. 2 in Spain. In saying that, I wonder how many feel that we missed out big time in signing 1 of the best keepers that ever graced the footballing world. Stand up Shay Given.

"My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.
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I agree. Given is a fantastic shot stopper, but lacks the other attributes needed to become a Reina-class goalkeeper. You mention his kicking, which is dreadful, but he's poor at coming for crosses too, and he does not 'boss' the defence much either.Originally posted by shanks69 View Postgiven is a good keeper,but is crap at kicking when under pressure something that doesn't faze reina.reina would be spains number 1 casillas was at another club instead of real madrid.
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Originally posted by Paul12 View PostI agree. Given is a fantastic shot stopper, but lacks the other attributes needed to become a Reina-class goalkeeper. You mention his kicking, which is dreadful, but he's poor at coming for crosses too, and he does not 'boss' the defence much either.
your right but everyone is forgeting one major thing, pepe is and has been taught spanish style,were as shay is taught english/irish,they have all different programes that they work on if shays gk coach was spanish like peps then you would see a different style of keeping in shay
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If I posted to promote my BLOG ( that I created all by myself with absolutely NO I.T experience whatsoever), i'd have posted in the gambling section and as someone said, I'd also have posted something more intelligent..
It's absolutely hilarious reading this thread. You do realise that EVERYWHERE else in the footballing world barring from Liverpool fans, Given is regarded as a better goalkeeper.
Being Irish has nothing to do with it, only that I see him more. Like I said, this isn't just my opinion, it's everyone's opinion outside the Liverpool loop.
And for those slagging my BLOG, get a life, grow up and keep your petty jealousy to yourselves while I count my money. Maybe you should have a word with Totesport and the likes and see what they think of my "**** website".Last edited by ValueFinder; 20-01-10, 05:14 PM.
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Examples please, including any quotes and linksOriginally posted by ValueFinder View PostIf I posted to promote my BLOG ( that I created all by myself with absolutely NO I.T experience whatsoever), i'd have posted in the gambling section and as someone said, I'd also have posted something more intelligent..
It's absolutely hilarious reading this thread. You do realise that EVERYWHERE else in the footballing world barring from Liverpool fans, Given is regarded as a better goalkeeper.
Being Irish has nothing to do with it, only that I see him more. Like I said, this isn't just my opinion, it's everyone's opinion outside the Liverpool loop.
And for those slagging my BLOG, get a life and keep your petty jealousy to yourselves while I count my money. Maybe you should have a word with Totesport and the likes and see what they think of my "**** website".
And yes we're all very jealous of your forum that only you have posted in
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Website bitching aside*, where are these examples you speak of, which state people's opinions outside of the "Liverpool loop", other than simply your say so?Originally posted by ValueFinder View PostHow many people posted in this (big)forum in it's first few weeks? Mods should have brains.
Some examples are already above and if I was bothered I'd find you links to alot more.
You can't be bothered because you're just throwing wild claims around. Show some hard evidence and people may start taking you more seriously.
*although I'd recommend getting a better web developer.
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I look forward to the respones - seriously. - Like my post earlier in the thread, imo Reina is criminally underated by many non-lfc fans. tho.......the great man Andy Gray himself!!!, did say recently on sky that Reina was the best keeper in the world. Think it was following a man united game in europe and keys asked the dutch man ruud gullit who the best keeper was and suprise suprise he said the dutch man van der sar.Originally posted by ValueFinder View PostIt wouldn't be hard finding a better web developer than myself.
I'm going to post this question in a neutral football forum I use and then post the link back here in a few days. it will be interesting reading no matter how it turns out.
Slater.
iirc gray popped up with Reina, and redknapp and souness agreed and given didn't come into it
post the links to the 'neutral' forum for us

and dont woryr about the others - they are just jealous matei own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do
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Reminds me of that cunt Sam Allardyce on the BBC at half-time last night...."Blackburn are in the semis, 88 clubs out there are jealous of Blackburn Rovers"Originally posted by PTP View Post
and dont woryr about the others - they are just jealous mate


Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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