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    #46
    Yes it would
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      #47
      Originally posted by pezzzer View Post
      loosing hypia was bad enough and took our defense an age to recover from his on/off field input. loosing carra would destroy it imo
      Quite agree ol chap

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        #48
        Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Post
        would probably be good to bring in simon kjaer.


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          #49
          He's still got over a year to go so we're prob right to wait before offering HIM a long extension at his age
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            #50
            It is best left untill the last minute for a contract extension for 2 reasons.

            1. Keeps Carra on his toes, tells him the club is in charge and not his agent.

            2. (Most impoprtant) a new contract will mean a pay rise, even only 10k per week over 2 years is 1m quid. This money would be better spent improving other areas, like the owners expense account or for extra security when they visit Anfield. Flying back and forward across the pond doesn't come cheap. There are also the 2 or 3 new stadium plans per year to pay for.
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              #51
              Do we need Carra?? In a word yes.

              Can't believe it is being debated
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                #52
                Originally posted by squaddie View Post
                Thats not my point tbh.

                Carragher would never be a problem for us if he'd be willing to sit on the bench 'now and again'........ Which he isnt.... So as soon as this starts happening he'll be wanting to move on to first team football. Very similar to the Hyppia situation and at the end of the day how could you blame him?

                My only worry is there's no defender in our team that has the ability to control that back line the way he does.... Not one that i can think of anyway
                I think he is probably still our best defender from a purely defensive point of view. The leadership organisation thing is also hugely important.

                I do wonder though whether Agger and/or Skrtel might improve if they had to do it for a sustained period. At the minute neither takes responsibility for things enough and perhaps removing the crutch of Carragher would push them on. The risk being that if neither stepped up we would be in a very poor position.

                I also think that his versatility is a valuable asset. We need another utility defender in my view with or without him in the squad. We look even weaker in that depth regard if he were to leave any time soon.
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                  #53
                  No we don't need him. He's been on the slide for a couple for years now and was shocking earlier this season. He's elevated that to being mostly average now.

                  He gives away more penalties than any other player and his distribution is truly terrible. He simply looks up and launches it vaguely into the inside-right channel. His lack of pace while he's been playing at right-back means he can't add anything to our right-sided attacks and also leaves him exposed to a pacey winger.

                  He was an excellent CB up to 3-4 years ago but time has clearly caught up with him and I'll be very surprised if he's a first-choice player next season

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                    #54
                    yes we need carra. look how ****ed we were when sami left. need carra cause he is an experienced head and good campaigner and a scouse lad to boot. give him a two year extension to end his carrer here. still one of the best in the league.
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Redspin View Post
                      No we don't need him. He's been on the slide for a couple for years now and was shocking earlier this season. He's elevated that to being mostly average now.

                      He gives away more penalties than any other player and his distribution is truly terrible. He simply looks up and launches it vaguely into the inside-right channel. His lack of pace while he's been playing at right-back means he can't add anything to our right-sided attacks and also leaves him exposed to a pacey winger.

                      He was an excellent CB up to 3-4 years ago but time has clearly caught up with him and I'll be very surprised if he's a first-choice player next season
                      I think we were more exposed in the right back area when Johnson played.
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by dww View Post
                        I think he is probably still our best defender from a purely defensive point of view. The leadership organisation thing is also hugely important.

                        I do wonder though whether Agger and/or Skrtel might improve if they had to do it for a sustained period. At the minute neither takes responsibility for things enough and perhaps removing the crutch of Carragher would push them on. The risk being that if neither stepped up we would be in a very poor position.

                        I also think that his versatility is a valuable asset. We need another utility defender in my view with or without him in the squad. We look even weaker in that depth regard if he were to leave any time soon.
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                        So he must have some leadership qualities about him.

                        Personally I do still think we need Carragher (well definitely considering the injury records of others), but part of me wonders if there might be a Thierry Henry effect if he was to go, and others wouldn't be afraid to take more responsibility.
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                          #57
                          Originally posted by dww View Post
                          I think we were more exposed in the right back area when Johnson played.
                          agreed but then he does score and set up some too
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                            #58
                            We certainly need Carra for the rest of this season! After that it depends on who comes in

                            Across the back 4 these is no natural leader apart from Carra, every team needs someone marshalling the defence and talking without Carra we'd miss this massively.

                            For me Carra should be around for as long as he wants at Anfield but he may also have to except as time ticks on he isn't an automatic first choice.

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                              #59
                              carra for manager/player role and sami as his asisstant

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Redspin View Post
                                No we don't need him. He's been on the slide for a couple for years now and was shocking earlier this season. He's elevated that to being mostly average now.

                                He gives away more penalties than any other player and his distribution is truly terrible. He simply looks up and launches it vaguely into the inside-right channel. His lack of pace while he's been playing at right-back means he can't add anything to our right-sided attacks and also leaves him exposed to a pacey winger.

                                He was an excellent CB up to 3-4 years ago but time has clearly caught up with him and I'll be very surprised if he's a first-choice player next season
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