Liverpool v Wigan Post Match

[Le Chef]

They wanted to play for this 'negative' manager last season when it was all hunky dory and we were the league's top scorers. So what's ****ing changed?

Enough is enough but I am appalled by most of our players - cowardly, gutless glory boys who only apply themselves properly when the sun is shining on their arses.

It is not black and white and Rafa is not 100% to blame. He's accountable cos he's the manager and he has to go, but I'd sell the majority of these ****houses too. Their attitude is ****ing disgraceful.

Rafa's the top man though, he sends them out under his instructions. if they want, can't play for him then he drops them. If he sends them out again and again then Rafa has to take the blame.

I wonder if he will drop a few of them for Lille or Portsmouth ?

[little dave hedgehog]

it will be interesting to see how the rest of the season plays out if you can bare watching. if the players are not even willing to play for pride anymore, how many wins from the last 9 do you guys here on est reckon we'll win?

[The_weatherman]

Wondered if I'd feel any different having slept on it but no, Rafa has to go.

I'd also sell Gerrard if we got a crazy offer.

Both were doing my head in yesterday, I was screaming for Babel, Johnson and Aquilani at half time, at 50 mins and through to the 82 min when he finally introduced Babel. I thought Johnson was bad but Aquilani at least moves around the pitch spreading the ball and making himself available - contrary to the rest of this pathetic bunch. Babel when he came on instantly tried to make something happen.

Playing Benni, Kuyt and Maxi was disastrous as they were all occupying similar space and when Gerrard moved further forward in just joined them in same space Idiots.

Insua was unbelievably bad, just gut wrenching. And Mascher needs to keep it simple, not try to take people on FFS.

AND why, are they always trying to pass the ball pretty when under pressure in front of their own goal, resulting in panic, but hoof it when they come close to the opposition goal?

We should play a totally different team next, maybe keep Kyrgiakos and Reina, as they would not have done worse than this lot yesterday. My suggestion for the next game:

Reina

Kelly Agger Kyrgiakos Mavinga

Aquilani Plessis

Babel Pacheco Riera

Ngog

[Shaggy]

Apparently Gerrard may face a disciplinary for "swearing at the ref".

[Reece]

I noticed that last night actually. Was surprised the ref didn't spot it then.

[The_weatherman]

Apparently Gerrard may face a disciplinary for "swearing at the ref".

Not like we'd miss him on the basis of yesterday, honestly think he should be dropped and Aquilani played instead. He was awful, passing was off, shooting was off, tackling was off, moaning and groaning was there though!

[Reece]

Drop Gerrard, play Pacheco in the role behind Torres

[little dave hedgehog]

drop all the players. allow their children to play.

[Shaggy]

Drop Gerrard....sack Gerrard.....for being unloyal......disloyal........and sack him for being an absolute idiot and inefficient.

[Rich]

Getting some stick in the office right now... all fully deserved, having nothing to go back with (other than tears... )

[little dave hedgehog]

drop all the players. allow their children to play.

did i say allow? i meant force. at gunpoint.

[Bender]

Drop Gerrard....sack Gerrard.....for being unloyal......disloyal........and sack him for being an absolute idiot and inefficient.

same gerrard who has dragged us season from season

[Reece]

same gerrard who has dragged us season from season

Woosh!

[Shaggy]

same gerrard who has dragged us season from season

Whoosh.

Anyway, yeah I'd sell him for crazy money. Not for £10m. For crazy money.

You seem to imply you are forgiving him his appalling season in light of former glories.

So why aren't you applying the same to the manager? Eh? EH?

You are a hypocrite.

They should both go.

[red g]

Stevie g has been at the heart of everything good that's happened to this once great club over the last 10 years.

But his performances have been nothing short of disgraceful this season , how can a world class player turn into a pub player?

He just isn't interested anymore