The New Manager Thread

[Slinky Skills]

Which forum mate? Care to point me in the right direction? If alright, legally speaking

I wonder what his user name was.


Money in my purse yo.

[Lecter]

Purslow: We have not considered nor are we going to consider a future without Benitez. Our five year plan calls for stability in the coaching staff and squad. Hence the recent renewal of Rafa`s – and key player`s - contracts. There will be no dramatic restructuring. It is normal that big clubs are interested in Rafa; there are many things I want in this life, but that does not mean that I can have them. The coach himself has denied this link (with Juventus).

[Lecter]

I wonder what his user name was.


Money in my purse yo.

Or more likely something like "Cecil The Chaffeur Driven Midget"

[Neil Young]

i don't neccessarily agree with that.
i'm not talking about g+h but about purslow, ayre, nash and the others who really run the club.
they want things done the way they believe is right. just like rafa thought he knew how things should be done.
just because they've all got different ideas doesn't mean they don't care about the club.

look, i'm not defending anyone here because they're all to blame for this god awful mess we're in. none of them, including rafa, can walk away clean from this. they've hurled too much dirt on one another for that.
with all these infights you knew someone's head would roll.

everyone has smeared anyone else. purslow did it to rafa who did it to purslow who smeared sos and vice verca. it's ****ing mess and noone is innoncent.

I'm sure blame can be dished out to all concerned but that's not to say the blame is shared equally.

I know who I hold primarily responsible and I also know who was closer to representing my interests.

In other words, I know whose side I was on. And still am.

[BrooklynRed]

i don't neccessarily agree with that.
i'm not talking about g+h but about purslow, ayre, nash and the others who really run the club.
they want things done the way they believe is right. just like rafa thought he knew how things should be done.
just because they've all got different ideas doesn't mean they don't care about the club.

look, i'm not defending anyone here because they're all to blame for this god awful mess we're in. none of them, including rafa, can walk away clean from this. they've hurled too much dirt on one another for that.
with all these infights you knew someone's head would roll.

everyone has smeared anyone else. purslow did it to rafa who did it to purslow who smeared sos and vice verca. it's ****ing mess and noone is innoncent.

Like I said, it seems reasonable that Rafa might be let go, but you can't do it unless you have a superior replacement for success on the pitch; this is not a regular job or a hedge fund where you simply slide another fund manager into a desk and see similar returns. This is the sport and entertainment business, where skill sets are unique and at an absolute premium. In this situation, the manager is not truly a subordinate to the Chairman, they are, in my mind, peers who are handling distinct parts of the business; they must work in concert to fulfill their distinct obligations and their responsibilities overlap in the area of transfers. Of course, the Chairman has the power to fire the manager, but his first responsibility is to the club and the performance on the pitch.

If it were me and I truly believed Rafa was not good enough to meet my expectations for success, why would I sign him to a contract extension? If he was not good enough in my mind, wouldn't I keep him until I had a sure fire replacement in hand who was a superior candidate? If I cared so much about the London press' opinion of the man, why would I give them more fuel by butchering the termination of the relationship in the press? Why would I not have a superior replacement in hand?

Anyone who sees clearly knows that letting Rafa go had nothing to do with one bad season, with Rafa's management performance and everything to do with personal feelings. That may be fine for a powerful business man with a fragile ego, but it is not good enough for this club. Like I said, I can understand that missing out on The Champions League after the dire football we played last season might warrant a firing; but the way it was handled indicates to me that this is all just an excuse to get the mouthy Spaniard out of there and strengthen the Chairman's position which, unfortunately, has absolutely nothing to do the success of the club.

And now I hear that he is going after the fans for their letter writing campaign by threatening to sue RAWK? Is this cunt totally tone deaf or just an idiot? He is killing himself, and that's pathetic to watch, but are we going to let him take the club down with him?

[Lecter]

Like I said, it seems reasonable that Rafa might be let go, but you can't do it unless you have a superior replacement for success on the pitch; this is not a regular job or a hedge fund where you simply slide another fund manager into a desk and see similar returns. This is the sport and entertainment business, where skill sets are unique and at an absolute premium. In this situation, the manager is not truly a subordinate to the Chairman, they are, in my mind, peers who are handling distinct parts of the business; they must work in concert to fulfill their distinct obligations and their responsibilities overlap in the area of transfers. Of course, the Chairman has the power to fire the manager, but his first responsibility is to the club and the performance on the pitch.

If it were me and I truly believed Rafa was not good enough to meet my expectations for success, why would I sign him to a contract extension? If he was not good enough in my mind, wouldn't I keep him until I had a sure fire replacement in hand who was a superior candidate? If I cared so much about the London press' opinion of the man, why would I give them more fuel by butchering the termination of the relationship in the press? Why would I not have a superior replacement in hand?

Anyone who sees clearly knows that letting Rafa go had nothing to do with one bad season, with Rafa's management performance and everything to do with personal feelings. That may be fine for a powerful business man with a fragile ego, but it is not good enough for this club. Like I said, I can understand that missing out on The Champions League after the dire football we played last season might warrant a firing; but the way it was handled indicates to me that this is all just an excuse to get the mouthy Spaniard out of there and strengthen the Chairman's position which, unfortunately, has absolutely nothing to do the success of the club.

And now I hear that he is going after the fans for their letter writing campaign by threatening to sue RAWK? Is this cunt totally tone deaf or just an idiot? He is killing himself, and that's pathetic to watch, but are we going to let him take the club down with him?

I honestly think Purslow has Napoleon Syndrome

[The Birdman]

Personally I think we should all rally round and increase the amount of written criticism Purslow gets.
It obviously pisses him off so lets piss him off enough that he leaves

[Roboklopp]

Purslow is a prize cock-gobbling cuntish whore.

Will that do?

What's he suing for anyway? Surely you're allowed to express your opinions on forums without the threat of legal action. That's basic freedom of speech.

Stupid cunt Purslow.

[Fernandinho]

i think its because people have released personal information about him, i.e his home address

[Roboklopp]

Aye, just seen that. Paper plane idea is ace.

[dom9]

i think its because people have released personal information about him, i.e his home address

That's naive if they have done that.

Write to him at the club, not his house.

[Kenneth]

I agree.

[Lecter]

MARTIN SAMUEL: Dalglish could be a pain Roy Hodgson can do without at Liverpool

Last updated at 12:04 AM on 28th June 2010

There are some who cannot believe Roy Hodgson is not already in place as Liverpool manager. They think a man who as good as hit the glass ceiling at Fulham when reaching the Europa League final should have jumped at the opportunity to join one of the biggest clubs in the world.

Eyebrows rose further when Hodgson chose to honour his media duties with the BBC in South Africa, instead of camping on the doorstep of Christian Purslow, Liverpool's managing director, with his pen out ready to sign

This has been taken as a bit of an insult. It has certainly not added to Hodgson's popularity on Merseyside, and he already needs all the friends he can get. Hodgson's derogators are mistaken, though. For far from being his dream ticket, Liverpool could turn out to be his impossible job.

Indeed, the only way he can make it work is if he stays strong now, lays down some guidelines and plays a little hard to get. He already risks walking in the front door as club legend Kenny Dalglish exits through the back, making him the home wrecker in the eyes of most Liverpool fans.

Hodgson will need a stunning first season to overcome that stigma as it is. The moment Dalglish asked to be a candidate, rather than a member of the steering committee that would appoint the next Liverpool manager, the currency of the post was devalued.

What should have been the most sought-after position of the summer - for who would not initially have fancied improving on last season's position of seventh - became a poison pill.

Dalglish may have been acting with the best intentions - if he thinks he is a better candidate than those he is assessing, why shouldn't he put his name forward? - but the way he did it placed the club in an impossible position and he should have realised that, too.

Maybe he understood but didn't care. Maybe he thought if the news leaked out that he was interested, the groundswell of local support would leave the board no choice but to appoint him. Only Dalglish will know at which point, if any, sincerity and the works of Machiavelli overlapped, but the effect has been to make the Liverpool job a more awkward proposition for every manager, bar him.

Could Dalglish do the job? Yes. He would command instant respect in the dressing room, and adoration from the stands. He is still involved in the game as a club ambassador and head of the Kirkby Academy, and was said to have held very firm opinions on where the fault lay during Rafael Benitez's final season.

He would not be entering from the periphery as Kevin Keegan did when he misguidedly returned to Newcastle United. And his record is magnificent. He won the league three times with Liverpool, and once with Blackburn Rovers, an achievement that grows greater with each year. Neither club have fared as well since his departure.

Liverpool have difficult times ahead. Significant players could leave this summer and the resources are not there to replace them, or to carry out the rebuilding process that is vital. It is going to require a great deal of patience from the supporters and no manager is better equipped to extract that loyalty and understanding than Dalglish.

Overlooked, however, he could be the worst enemy the new manager will have. This does not even have to be his intention. Just by not being Dalglish, the next man is disadvantaged.

So if the leading candidate is not sprinting towards Anfield, is it any wonder? Hodgson will be aware of the timeline, of the fact that Dalglish put his name forward after Hodgson had emerged as a strong contender, perhaps the earliest vote of no confidence in history.

Hodgson will know, too, that Dalglish is hugely influential at Liverpool; that he sits in the directors' box for most games and has powerful allies in the local and national media. His is an important voice. To have Dalglish in opposition would be a disaster for any Liverpool manager.

Hodgson is stuck between the devil and a deep red sea. If Dalglish remains, his presence may not be entirely helpful, if he leaves in protest at being ignored - an idea floated this week - Hodgson could not have made a more unfortunate start had he suggested ground-sharing at Goodison Park.

Lose any combination of Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres and Javier Mascherano this summer, and Hodgson could take Graeme Souness's title of least popular Liverpool manager before a ball is kicked.

Any other business? The alleged approach to Marseille for coach Didier Deschamps, said to have taken place on Thursday. Jean-Claude Dassier, the Marseille president, claimed he spoke to Purslow and refused permission to open talks with Deschamps and his agent Jean-Pierre Bernes.

Hardly going all out to make Hodgson feel wanted, are they? Deschamps is a World Cup-winning captain turned title-winning manager and may be seen as a better fit than the humble Hodgson, but his appointment would still be a snub for Dalglish, and would raise the same issues; and Deschamps would not even have the saving grace of Hodgson's knowledge of the Premier League to guide him through the first season.

At any other club in Liverpool's position, Hodgson would be a fine choice; and at any other time, Liverpool would be a fantastic opportunity for him. Not right now though.

This is a tough job, made doubly difficult by the involvement of Dalglish which is why, if it is to be Hodgson, he must take his time. Further delay will not endear him to supporters, but it is only right he knows where he stands.

What are Dalglish's intentions? How much influence will he have if he stays? Who is to be sold, who will remain? What is the financial position? Hodgson should not be expected simply to be grateful for his chance. He might not be King Kenny, but he is too good to be taken for a mug.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1290117/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Kenny-Dalglish-pain-Roy-Hodgson-without.html?ITO=1490#ixzz0s6C1dssv

[Kenneth]

fair enough.

[Lecter]

i think its because people have released personal information about him, i.e his home address

That was the reason but his lawyers also asked for the entire thread to be removed (which was discussions regarding the sacking of Rafa)

I dont think little Cecil likes people criticising him

I hope the ****ing midget gets whats coming to him

I hope someone decides to take up dwarf tossing at the next home game