Time to sell Gerrard

[Kenneth]

Now we established that he should be sold , how much could we realistically get if we sold him ,assuming he has a reasonable world cup (i.e. no Kamikaze back passes etc).

25 million?
30 million?

[Bender]

wow so gerrard is being made the scapegoat for this poor season
How about the manager and his over cautious match tactics ......poor decisions ....sorry but the amount of times gerrard has saved this club and he has a poor season and now it's his fault is it

[Kenneth]

wow so gerrard is being made the scapegoat for this poor season
How about the manager and his over cautious match tactics ......poor decisions ....sorry but the amount of times gerrard has saved this club and he has a poor season and now it's his fault is it

Why do you say he's baing made the scapegoat? There are quite a few threads on the manager.

Read the OP, I am not blaming Gerrard for our plight this season, I am putting an argument forward that this is the time to sell him, for many reasons. Expect a more considered response from you chap.

[red g]

probably about the same 20-25million Arsenal got for henry.

[The Birdman]

If we received an offer in excess of £30 million, if that offer came from a foreign club, if Rafa was allowed to reinvest all that money on strengthening the team and if Rafa wanted to sell him then I wouldn't begrudge him going.
For me because of the general dross he has had to play with during his career he goes down as maybe, just maybe our greatest ever player but time moves on and I think it is something we need to consider.
Couldn't bear to see him lift the PL with Man City or someone like that though

[Bender]

Why do you say he's baing made the scapegoat? There are quite a few threads on the manager.

Read the OP, I am not blaming Gerrard for our plight this season, I am putting an argument forward that this is the time to sell him, for many reasons. Expect a more considered response from you chap.

Just do not think it makes sense selling Gerrard .......time the manager took the blame first and foremost.......why have all but 1 or 2 players underperformed .....something else is not right at the club and i think the players do not want to play for the current management.......don't think selling gerrard just to raise cash works.....like Aquilani coming in for Alonso which hasn't worked yet ......ps last response wasn't aimed at you

[Exiled_red]

If we received an offer in excess of £30 million, if that offer came from a foreign club, if Rafa was allowed to reinvest all that money on strengthening the team and if Rafa wanted to sell him then I wouldn't begrudge him going.
For me because of the general dross he has had to play with during his career he goes down as maybe, just maybe our greatest ever player but time moves on and I think it is something we need to consider.
Couldn't bear to see him lift the PL with Man City or someone like that though

I think that's a very big if, those two parasites would almost certainly see any big transfer fee as a reduction in the £100m they need to find. IMO it's very unlikely that we'll see all that money invested in the suqad if we were to decide to sell him*

* For the record I don't think we should.

[BG1973]

Alonso one season. Gerrard the next.

Absolutely no fcuking way. What sort of signal is that sending to the like of Torres who is already making noises about quality being required? To potential targets?

He's having a bad season and as captain his onfield demeanour is a concern as his influence on the others is so great... but what he needs is support from the fans, not people on his back.

[Kenneth]

Alonso one season. Gerrard the next.

Absolutely no fcuking way. What sort of signal is that sending to the like of Torres who is already making noises about quality being required? To potential targets?

He's having a bad season and as captain his onfield demeanour is a concern as his influence on the others is so great... but what he needs is support from the fans, not people on his back.

Or to be sold

It depends who was brought in. I think a change of manager, a change of captain and a star name purchase could refresh what is a depressing team at the momnet.

[Taxi]

Yep lets sell Gerrard, we may as well sell Torres as well...Keep our best players and change the man at the top.

We can't go selling our best assets, it would be madness. Gerrard and Torres are the reason why we are always in with a shout of attracting some of the best players we can afford. They want to play alongside them. Add in the fact that we don't have CL football to play in and we're in a very bad position indeed.

Whilst Citeh will strengthen their squad, and their grip on the top 4 spot, some fans think selling Stevie would be a good idea...

He's not had a great season, but I'm sure a new manager with better personal skills would change that.

[Kenneth]

Yep lets sell Gerrard, we may as well sell Torres as well...Keep our best players and change the man at the top.

We can't go selling our best assets, it would be madness. Gerrard and Torres are the reason why we are always in with a shout of attracting some of the best players we can afford. They want to play alongside them. Add in the fact that we don't have CL football to play in and we're in a very bad position indeed.

Whilst Citeh will strengthen their squad, and their grip on the top 4 spot, some fans think selling Stevie would be a good idea...

He's not had a great season, but I'm sure a new manager with better personal skills would change that.

Keeping Torres is a must, keeping Gerrard isn't imo.

The biggest thing that is likely to turn off potential signings is Rafa and Rafa's achievment this year. A change in manager would attract players more than keeper Gerrard would. Anyway, manager aside, Gerrard is not helping our play at the moment, imo, for the reasons in the OP. I think we could well be better off without Gerrard and with his transfer fee.

When was the last time Gerrard looked world class? It's been a while. When was the last time he was MOM even?

[Taxi]

Keeping Torres is a must, keeping Gerrard isn't imo.

The biggest thing that is likely to turn off potential signings is Rafa and Rafa's achievment this year. A change in manager would attract players more than keeper Gerrard would. Anyway, manager aside, Gerrard is not helping our play at the moment, imo, for the reasons in the OP. I think we could well be better off without Gerrard and with his transfer fee.

I agree on the manager point, but not on selling Stevie. Torres has already hinted he might feck off and if we sold Stevie, he might well decide to bugger off as well because thats exactly the sort of thing a club in decline would be doing. We could find ourself in a position where we'd have no Gerrard, no decent replacement because most of the money raised would be used to pay off debt or we are unable to attract one due to being out of the CL, and lose Torres in the next 12 months because he wants success.

I just think it could set off a very negative chain reaction.

[nineteen]

Selling our best players is not the way to go about improving the club. Gerrard has had a poor season, but so does everyone now and then. He's still the right side of 30 (until May anyway) and has at least a couple of years left in him at the top level.

I see a different solution in which Gerrard is the natural successor to Alonso. He was moved into the second striker spot because Alonso fulfilled the driving force in midfield with Mascherano on defensive duties. After Alonso left the natural move would have been to drop him back into the same role and find someone else to play second striker. Gerrard is as good as Alonso in the tackle, winning the ball, passing, and would provide an extra dimension in goalscoring as he comes forward from the middle. As it stands we don't have a good quality second in the Kenny mould, but I'd experiment with Babel or Yossi in that role and drop Gerrard back to midfield.

In the summer I'd look for another striker to support Torres, and go with a 4-4-2.

[barnes10]

Selling our best players is not the way to go about improving the club. Gerrard has had a poor season, but so does everyone now and then. He's still the right side of 30 (until May anyway) and has at least a couple of years left in him at the top level.

I see a different solution in which Gerrard is the natural successor to Alonso. He was moved into the second striker spot because Alonso fulfilled the driving force in midfield with Mascherano on defensive duties. After Alonso left the natural move would have been to drop him back into the same role and find someone else to play second striker. Gerrard is as good as Alonso in the tackle, winning the ball, passing, and would provide an extra dimension in goalscoring as he comes forward from the middle. As it stands we don't have a good quality second in the Kenny mould, but I'd experiment with Babel or Yossi in that role and drop Gerrard back to midfield.

In the summer I'd look for another striker to support Torres, and go with a 4-4-2.

doing it at the right time is. ask wenger and ferguson. both have surprised us by letting their big names go for huge fees and the team and club have moved on.

if gerrard really isnt happy anymore and fancies a crack at madrid or barca and rafa wants and get the funds to spend on two other top players. then if that makes the team as a whole stronger then its a no brainer isnt it. time's up.

[Shaggy]

doing it at the right time is. ask wenger and ferguson. both have surprised us by letting their big names go for huge fees and the team and club have moved on.

if gerrard really isnt happy anymore and fancies a crack at madrid or barca and rafa wants and get the funds to spend on two other top players. then if that makes the team as a whole stronger then its a no brainer isnt it. time's up.

Exactly, all this piffle about "ooooh you don't sell your best players" is hysterical hogwash. Henry, Pires, Beckham, Stam...I could go on. If Gerrard went the club would move on, no problem. It's not all about Steven Gerrard.