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**Gazmo1** · 04-04-10, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Armchairkopite View Post

Unfortunately our involvement in the Europa league just might cost us fourth place.

I disagree on that, our poor performances over the course of the season have cost us fourth place. If we had have progressed in the CL we'd have still had to have made sure we qualified 4th or better, as we have done each year. We've always had to multitask.

**Guest** · 04-04-10, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Gazmo1 View Post

You used Ngog as a specific example as to why Torres was so ****e today. That is why Ngog has been used as an example.

Do you not even understand your own arguement now??

WTF are you on about?

Torres was **** because he was **** and when he was replaced we seemed to play better and created at least 3 clear cut chances. Granted that Torres 'could' have converted them (as if he never missed sitters before) but that was not my point, my point was that the introduction of Ngog caused Birmingham problems, where before Torres didn't have a sniff. Just don't try to distort what I'm trying to say.

**Leyton388** · 04-04-10, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by Mattshark View Post

Oh bollocks, he has had our 2 best finishes in over 20 years and you spout this unintelligent dribble based on one poor season.

would fergie have taken Rooney off in a must win game?

Would Wenger take Fabgegas off in a must win game?

Would Carlo take Drogba off in a must win game?

Rafa has just given up on playing champions league football next season in favour of the europa league. So why don't you just stop spouting your ****ing dribble about other fans on this site who can clearly see what is wrong with Rafa.

Go stick your head back in that sand pit you just crawled out of.

**Fernandinho** · 04-04-10, 05:35 PM

dare i say it but maybe not qualifying for CL will drain enough funds to kick out the ****ing cowbows?

**Gazmo1** · 04-04-10, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by tiktu View Post

I am allergic to fish so I couldn't care flying **** about that but maybe Scooter can answer on how much is the fish..

Anyways we made a change, N'Gog came on and made the difference. Babel, Maxi and Gerrard had their changes but only Gerrard scored once. Torres wasn't near at his best today, didn't beat players, seemed tired. Maybe we should have started with N'Gog instead of Kuyt, maybe we should have started with Babel instead of Benny. Maybe the fish's price is too high.

Too bad we had to change Torres to N'Gog to get opportunities Torres might have buried.

It took more than one change to create the chances. Swopping like for like didn't change the service. Ngog had one chance and then a plethora of chances after Babel and Aqua came on, thereby changing the shape of the team.

All immaterial, we have been **** all season and won't be playing at the highest level next season.

A reduction is income, no CL football to lure stars to Liverpool, massive debt..........rock and roll times.

**Guest** · 04-04-10, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by liverpooltj View Post

would fergie have taken Rooney off in a must win game?

Would Wenger take off Fabgegas off in a must win game?

Would Carlo take off Drogba off in a must win game?

Rafa has just given up on playing champions league football next season in favour of the europa league. So why don't just stop spouting your ****ing dribble about other fans on this site who can clearly see what is wrong with Rafa.

Go stick your head back in that sand pit you just crawled out of.

I'm pretty sure they'd do that if they were playing as badly as Torres did today.

Remember how Henry, Beckham and al were ousted by the same great managers you've just elicited? Drogba? He was on the bench yesterday and Chelsea still won.

**the rev leeroy brown** · 04-04-10, 05:37 PM

**** off rafa you knob. taking off torres was a ****ing disgracefull decision. get it through your thick ****ing head that we fans want 4th place and champs league / money / and big name players......not 7th and the loser league.

torres was livid to be taken off. no wonder he refused rafas handshake. i'd have decked the prick.

ngog?!?!?!?!? ****ing wank he is. babel should have been on much earlier and so should aqua. 4th place gone and the team i love almost as much as the missus is going down the ****house!!! cheers rafa.

**Fernandinho** · 04-04-10, 05:39 PM

chelsea have 2 decent strikers... do u think if chelsea didnt have anelka that drogba would have been benched?

**tiktu** · 04-04-10, 05:41 PM

Would we have been champions if Houllier hadn't returned from the heart op as under Thompson we were quite good going from win to win?

**Bender** · 04-04-10, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by the rev leeroy brown View Post

**** off rafa you knob. taking off torres was a ****ing disgracefull decision. get it through your thick ****ing head that we fans want 4th place and champs league / money / and big name players......not 7th and the loser league.

torres was livid to be taken off. no wonder he refused rafas handshake. i'd have decked the prick.

ngog?!?!?!?!? ****ing wank he is. babel should have been on much earlier and so should aqua. 4th place gone and the team i love almost as much as the missus is going down the ****house!!! cheers rafa.

wow

**fatistuta** · 04-04-10, 05:42 PM

Although be it for Drogba.......Anelka, a top goalscorer and match winner was substituted yesterday in a must win game.

**Gazmo1** · 04-04-10, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by PeteBest View Post

WTF are you on about?

Torres was **** because he was **** and when he was replaced we seemed to play better and created at least 3 clear cut chances. Granted that Torres 'could' have converted them (as if he never missed sitters before) but that was not my point, my point was that the introduction of Ngog caused Birmingham problems, where before Torres didn't have a sniff. Just don't try to distort what I'm trying to say.

You're a bit of a pen15 really aren't you?

I'm not trying to distort anything you are saying. I'm presenting your facts back to you. Re-watch the game and then look at how the shape and chances came once the changes (note the plural here) were made.

I'm presume you watched it live?

Regardless of Torres, Ngog or Roy of the ****ing Rovers.....we are ****e. Torres has suffered all season because of poor service and being kicked from here to pluto. Go and ask Stevie G who he'd rather play with?

The fact remains that Rafa has foresaken 4th spot for the Europa League (you might disagree, but this is how I see it)

**Bender** · 04-04-10, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by Icon View Post

You want to re-phrase?

i meant in the Liverpool team

**Leyton388** · 04-04-10, 05:45 PM

Dont worry boy's all is well next year will be our year! We will have a big summer and sign those missing pieces! This time next year we will be champions.

**Molby** · 04-04-10, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by the rev leeroy brown View Post

**** off rafa you knob. taking off torres was a ****ing disgracefull decision. get it through your thick ****ing head that we fans want 4th place and champs league / money / and big name players......not 7th and the loser league.

torres was livid to be taken off. no wonder he refused rafas handshake. i'd have decked the prick.

ngog?!?!?!?!? ****ing wank he is. babel should have been on much earlier and so should aqua. 4th place gone and the team i love almost as much as the missus is going down the ****house!!! cheers rafa.

Strong words - but i can't disagree with you Rev.

Just listened to Rafa's post match interview - **** sake - does he live in the real world? he is becoming more of a clown every time i see him.

We need change - and we need it NOW !! I say King Kenny for the rest of the season.

Rafa - log onto easyjet.com - i'm sure you can find a one way ticket to Madrid

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