Atletico post-match downer

[Shaggy]

We need some changes, the bench yesterday was our downfall. It's actually amazing that a club of Liverpool's stature is bringing on El Zhar and Degen in vital games like yesterday. Players who have no future with the club either.

Once again his subs came at the wrong moment and the wrong players came on, I'd like to see how El Zhar fares in the reserves, is he any better than Amoo for example?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling for Rafa's head but I'd like to see some common sense from him once in a while.

I've seen El Zhar in the reserves several times and he never looks good enough even at that level. I can't believe a 23 year old professional, who plays on the wing, can't cross a ball. The first thing he had to do last night was deliver a cross from the right. A straightforward thing to do. And he put it in the Kop.

[Mattshark]

We need some changes, the bench yesterday was our downfall. It's actually amazing that a club of Liverpool's stature is bringing on El Zhar and Degen in vital games like yesterday. Players who have no future with the club either.

Once again his subs came at the wrong moment and the wrong players came on, I'd like to see how El Zhar fares in the reserves, is he any better than Amoo for example?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling for Rafa's head but I'd like to see some common sense from him once in a while.

That is why we need some more depth, to be honest it is not like we had a great deal of options yesterday. No Torres, Maxi, Aurellio, Insua and thanks to him being a tit, Riera. Imagine the the difference they would make .

[Matt]

Its a ****ing **** rule. At the end of 90 minutes that rule should stop. At that point both teams have had an equal amount of time to score an away goal

[PTP]

looks like a chose a **** weekend to not do any drugs! watch us beat chelsea now

[Exiled_red]

That is why we need some more depth, to be honest it is not like we had a great deal of options yesterday. No Torres, Maxi, Aurellio, Insua and thanks to him being a tit, Riera. Imagine the the difference they would make .

The team picked itself yesterday, we were down to the bare bones.

[Redspin]

if rafa had taken a more positive approach in the first leg and looked to score an away goal then I think we could have scored an away goal.

I knew they would score today and that we needed to get 3 to go through and without torres that's just not going to happen.

Season is over, now let the circus begin.

We did score an away goal, but it was bizarrely disallowed for a non-existent offside. Was that Rafa's fault too?

[Redspin]

we missed maxi and torres today.

The subs bench was pretty uninspiring and if you are carra or stevie you've gotta be thinking that this is it. We've got to do the job because there's no cavalry.

Unfortunately Stevie decided to stay at home and watch it on the box apparently

[The_weatherman]

I've seen El Zhar in the reserves several times and he never looks good enough even at that level. I can't believe a 23 year old professional, who plays on the wing, can't cross a ball. The first thing he had to do last night was deliver a cross from the right. A straightforward thing to do. And he put in the Kop.

For 23 old he has very little experience and I can't fathom his role at the club to be honest, he is just getting the way of some of the younger players.

[Redspin]

i wont have that. last night he was putting in real good crosses that a proper centre forward like torres would have eaten up.

as i've already said, he is the only player outside torres who gives the crowd a real buzz when he gets on the ball.

he was potent down the left and the centrre last night.

You are talking about Babel I assume? I thought he showed his usual can't be arsed, casual, ineffective, running up blind alleys, picking out the wrong options, never looking like scoring performance.

The only buzz he gives me is of anticipation - the anticipation that in a few seconds he'll totally **** up what he's doing. He rarely lets me down.

With a bit of luck we'll offload him in the summer

[The_weatherman]

That is why we need some more depth, to be honest it is not like we had a great deal of options yesterday. No Torres, Maxi, Aurellio, Insua and thanks to him being a tit, Riera. Imagine the the difference they would make .

You are right of course, but maybe the Riera thing could have been handled better in hindsight, since it is have negative effects on the teams performances.

[Matt]

I think part of the problem this summer is that some players who are clearly squad filler won't be moved on in time because there won't be assurances that they can be replaced.

[red g]

You are talking about Babel I assume? I thought he showed his usual can't be arsed, casual, ineffective, running up blind alleys, picking out the wrong options, never looking like scoring performance.

The only buzz he gives me is of anticipation - the anticipation that in a few seconds he'll totally **** up what he's doing. He rarely lets me down.

With a bit of luck we'll offload him in the summer

3 or 4 times he did something good followed by being ****.
its like he has some sort of auto-correction brain dysfucntion that when he does something good he has to do somehting ****....maybe its a form of OCD?

[red g]

I think part of the problem this summer is that some players who are clearly squad filler won't be moved on in time because there won't be assurances that they can be replaced.

[Exiled_red]

I think part of the problem this summer is that some players who are clearly squad filler won't be moved on in time because there won't be assurances that they can be replaced.

[the rev leeroy brown]

You are talking about Babel I assume? I thought he showed his usual can't be arsed, casual, ineffective, running up blind alleys, picking out the wrong options, never looking like scoring performance.

The only buzz he gives me is of anticipation - the anticipation that in a few seconds he'll totally **** up what he's doing. He rarely lets me down.

With a bit of luck we'll offload him in the summer

i thought you were cool redspin.........