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    Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
    Well yeah, but I would say that was a lot do with confidence that we simply lacked after a **** start and away from home and a **** load of injuries.

    At Anfield we were quite good. In the past 10 years our points total more often than not would have actually got CL football.
    Arguable that we had worst injuries than anyone else, but when you are relying on two players to do the attacking it's a problem. I think Arsenal and Chelsea have had bigger injury problems this season.

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      Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
      Untill the owners go...the cloud that hangs over this club will remain...and no amount of managerial changes will alter that.
      Why not?

      Different style of play - attack maybe?
      Different formation.

      Who know what a change of manager will bring even under the current circumstances...

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        Beeb - Let's have a shout out for Liverpool's Jack Robinson, who came on three minutes from the end at Hull to become the club's youngest ever player. He's 16 years and eight months old.

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          Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
          Well yeah, but I would say that was a lot do with confidence that we simply lacked after a **** start and away from home and a **** load of injuries.

          At Anfield we were quite good. In the past 10 years our points total more often than not would have actually got CL football.
          True confidence and injuries all played a part but I think one of the biggest things missing from this squad was quite simply desire. There were so many games where we didn't look like we lacked confidence we just looked like we couldn't give a ****.

          Also the points total we got has no means absolutely nothing with regards to the past 10 years, it only has something to do with this year and this year this points total was shocking as 6 other teams got more than us.

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            Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
            Anything is arguable, but this team got more points.
            They didn't get more than Chelsea, Manure, Arsenal, Spurs, City and Villa which meant we didn't get Champions League football. Houlliers last team only had 3 teams above it and did get Champions League football. The fact we got more points this season than we did back then means jack **** really.

            The only thing that matters is this season and this season we were nowhere near good enough.

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              well at least we avoided 19 defeats this season.
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                we finished 2 points ahead of Everton Whooopppppeeeee

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                  Originally posted by SimonNo7 View Post
                  They didn't get more than Chelsea, Manure, Arsenal, Spurs, City and Villa which meant we didn't get Champions League football. Houlliers last team only had 3 teams above it and did get Champions League football. The fact we got more points this season than we did back then means jack **** really.

                  The only thing that matters is this season and this season we were nowhere near good enough.
                  Spot on sadly!

                  We've been dog**** all season, whatever the reasons thats a fact - 11 loses and finishing 7th - simply dreadful!

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                    Originally posted by SimonNo7 View Post
                    They didn't get more than Chelsea, Manure, Arsenal, Spurs, City and Villa which meant we didn't get Champions League football. Houlliers last team only had 3 teams above it and did get Champions League football. The fact we got more points this season than we did back then means jack **** really.

                    The only thing that matters is this season and this season we were nowhere near good enough.
                    Actually it reflects massive changes in circumstance and why the lack on investment we had in the summer was so critical.
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                      Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                      Actually it reflects massive changes in circumstance and why the lack on investment we had in the summer was so critical.
                      Most notably squad and ability...

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                        Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                        Actually it reflects massive changes in circumstance and why the lack on investment we had in the summer was so critical.
                        Certainly a contributing factor but I'd add that our signings for the past 2 years have been pretty woeful.
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                          Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                          Untill the owners go...the cloud that hangs over this club will remain...and no amount of managerial changes will alter that.
                          This

                          Whether Rafa is the right man to lead us or not, we simply cannot afford a respectable replacement or any sort of significant squad overhaul, until the two leeches are gone

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