Money money money

[Bob]

oh ffs get over yourself, if you knew the hardwork plenty of people that don't come from liverpool have to go through to get to liverpool to see a match , the costs, times involved etc, you'll soon realise how stupid comments like that wind people up.

you've been saying all day, that money makes the footballing world go round, then good luck achieving that with just your L4 postcode fans.

New 60,000 seater stadium, looking about as quiet as the koptalk executive lounge.

5 balls to you Sir.

[Shaggy]

Anyone seen this by Bascombe?


' On the subject of Manchester United, there's something else they have in common with Liverpool. Walking through the streets of Bordeaux and hearing so many cockney accents from people in Liverpool shirts made those croissants taste particularly sour.

Perhaps it's my imagination, but it seems there are even more non-Scouse fans than ever jumping on the Euro-bus. Now I can imagine those who continuously fail to recognise this is a Merseyside paper are preparing a poisonouse response as I speak (even though I've implied nothing yet).

I merely offer this as an observation, as much as a chronicle of Liverpool's travels as a comment on the trends. Rightly or wrongly, there are an increasing number of Liverpool people who feel the balance is being tilted in favour of the fans with most cash, many of whom don't come from the city.

And there is a genuine fear that when then new stadium is built, not enough care will be taken to ensure The Kop end is packed with Scouser voices, particularly if price rises are maintained at current levels (they may be still lower than the rest of the country, but that doesn't make them cheap).

If that happens, the kind of alienation United fans from Manchester have felt will become more apparent at Anfield. As one of the world's biggest clubs, Liverpool have succeeded much more than United in maintaining their local fan base, but with a new stadium imminent there can be no place for complacency.

For the Anfield hierarchy, the interests of the people of this city must always be the number one priority '

Chris Bascombe

[Red Chilli]

For the Anfield hierarchy, the interests of the people of this city must always be the number one priority '

Interesting, surely the interests of the football club is the number 1 priority?
Don't we have some of the lowest priced season tickets in the premiership? I don't see what Bascombe is getting at here, one minute he talking about the streets of Bordeaux and then he's relating it to the Kop. A bit of a stretch if you ask me.

[Rocket]

not impressed to be honest fella.

some little scallies were trying to kick off in Cardiff last season, on fans that weren't from Liverpool.

if thats the kind of local support we want, then so be it.

[Shaggy]

Yeah, I normally like what Bascombe has to say but he appears confused in this article.

[Morph]

I think he's basically saying that Man U have failed to keep their Manchester fan base at the match due to ticket price hikes (not sure if this is the case in reality), and that we should be careful so as not to do the same when we move to our new stadium. I assume he used the Bordeaux match merely as a reference, as he noticed a lot of London accents, which to be fair you wouldn't expect to hear.

i think he just wasn't to make the point that ticket prices shouldn't become out of reach of the people who made the club what it is today, in favour of those who've recently jumped on the bandwagon.

[paulcooper4]

Tom your in danger of takin my title as site leper here mate, dont even think about knickin me title

[Morph]

Tom your in danger of takin my title as site leper here mate, dont even think about knickin me title

Your not in the football forum enough to be a leper in here.

[paulcooper4]

My arse still bears the carvings purple acky left in it.

[Morph]

But that's not a patch on the new arsehole Bolo Zenden gave me

[Growler]

however much money the wancs have, they still play fletcher and o'shea in their team.

[Red_Polo]

however much money the wancs have, they still play fletcher and o'shea in their team.

Great point. Still they manage to play as an efficient, cohesive unit.

[TheStig]

people say its easier to win the cl these days but is it? even when porto won it they had ferriera, carvaliho, deco etc

Do they? Seems a bit odd, it's much harder to win now than it was before.

[Morph]

I'd say it's easier now really, you have a league format which you can come second in and still progress. If you come top you're separated from all the other top teams, so by rights you should have an easier passage to the last 8.

Then it's just a matter of winning 3 ties to win the trophy, and even the first of those last 3 ties can often throw up a team fortunate to be there in the first place.

So you could realistically win the trophy by playing only 2 top quality teams.

[Tom]

Quite an interesting thread. Some thoughts...

• Money is not directly proportionate to success. Wegner is a fine example of this.
• Rafa's head ain't on the line - that's clearly OTT, and sheer disappointment in some quarters.
• Rafa however is certainly not beyond reproach.
• Rafa IMO is having a shocking start to the season - a sentiment i've personally explained elsewhere, and all season. As a fan i'll voice my concerns thank you.
• If a manager is 'theoretically' terrible at his job keeping him in charge will not solve the problem (4 years Evans). If by some wild twist of fate we appointed Graham Taylor should we be sitting here asking for patience.
• I don't think i've seen such continuous patronising drivel from a poster as i have from you today Tom.

Go **** yourself. Particularily rich after your headless chicken routine yesterday.