Swiss training camp

[Mattshark]

Are so you saying the English coaches are less motivated? I really don't know what gives you that idea tbh. David Moyes came from Preston and he seems motivated, same could be said of O'Neil, Steve Bruce, etc.

Only one of them is English

[DannyMan2006]

But our sort of football is not the same as a championship sides sort of football.

It is more like a high standard Championship side than AEK Athens.

[Mattshark]

It is more like a high standard Championship side than AEK Athens.

I personally doubt that.

[Rich]

And why would that be?

I don't see Greek teams pulling up trees in European competition. The better Championship sides will have better facilities and coaches IMO.

Do you have any proof to back up this outrageous claim?

[red g]

But our sort of football is not the same as a championship sides sort of football.

well our football is about to change and your right though.....some championship teams are good to watch



leicester, cardiff, norwich, swansea, forest, leeds, to name a few who play football in the right way and sure would help our kids come on

[DannyMan2006]

Only one of them is English

British then, it makes no difference

I meant Championship and below managers/coaches

[Mattshark]

some championship teams are good to watch

[Muddled]

But our sort of football is not the same as a championship sides sort of football.

But the English mentality and style of play is.

We could argue the further down the league's you go, the more kick and rush it gets, and less could be learnt on the tactical side of the game. But you still learn that element of passion, pressing and physical nature of *English* football.

[elrichio86]

But our sort of football is not the same as a championship sides sort of football.

No, but IMO ours is closer to championship style than that of Greece/Belgium/etc.

Plus, in many cases, our reserves have come from abroad in the first place. So generally their technique and finesse is already there, its the physical side of their game that needs beefing up. For the English reserves, a forgeign loan could be benefical.

[Resu]

If the purpose of sending players out on loan is to get them ready for 1st team football, then surely Championship football would be of more use than Greece/Belgium/etc. We're trying to prepare these players for OUR 1st team, and so we need to prepare them for OUR sort of football.

Whilst the standard of coaching may be better at the foreign clubs compared to championship clubs, if we thought that these players only decent coaching we could keep them at LFC, as that standard would be better than either other option. We're sending them out for 1st team football, not coaching.

Plus I'd imagine there are a few cash-strapped lower league clubs who would happily take some of our players - they'd never be able to afford this standard of player via normal methods.

But playing in the "kick and run" Championship preparing them to play for LFC? It will prepare them for playing against the "kick and run" opponents, but it probably not prepare tham for the style of play LFC plays. If you want to learn players how the keep the ball and out-play opponents I`m not sure the Championship is the way to go.
It also depends on where the youngsters come from, if he`s british he`ll be used to the pace.
My general impression, based on what norwegian players have said, is that the average british coach isn`t that good. They can often be old-fashioned and stuck in the "this how we do it in England" mode.

[Mattshark]

But the English mentality and style of play is.

We could argue the further down the league's you go, the more kick and rush it gets, and less could be learnt on the tactical side of the game. But you still learn that element of passion, pressing and physical nature of *English* football.

Or we could, instead, teach our players to play football and learn better technique, which is more important at the top level.

[DannyMan2006]

Do you have any proof to back up this outrageous claim?

About as much proof as the others claiming have.

It's my opinion. Of course I wouldn't expect Scunthorpe to have better facilities, but the Likes of Forest, Boro, Reading and many others I would expect to be right up there.

The majority of Yo Yo teams spend huge sums on improving their facilities instead of dreaming about big names.

[DannyMan2006]

No, but IMO ours is closer to championship style than that of Greece/Belgium/etc.

Plus, in many cases, our reserves have come from abroad in the first place. So generally their technique and finesse is already there, its the physical side of their game that needs beefing up. For the English reserves, a forgeign loan could be benefical.

This I am agreeing with, very much so.

[Mattshark]

But playing in the "kick and run" Championship preparing them to play for LFC? It will prepare them for playing against the "kick and run" opponents, but it probably not prepare tham for the style of play LFC plays. If you want to learn players how the keep the ball and out-play opponents I`m not sure the Championship is the way to go.
It also depends on where the youngsters come from, if he`s british he`ll be used to the pace.
My general impression, based on what norwegian players have said, is that the average british coach isn`t that good. They can often be old-fashioned and stuck in the "this how we do it in England" mode.

I saw your current league leaders play last night, which was quite interesting to see, though they were a bit disappointing.

[DannyMan2006]

Or we could, instead, teach our players to play football and learn better technique, which is more important at the top level.

I would say in the Premiership that the most important thing to have is the desire to fight and the ability to take knocks. Because if you have that, the technique and ability of a Liverpool player will overshadow the vast majority of opponents.