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    Originally posted by red g View Post
    Molby blaming Rafa
    Just shows what being English and a friend of the media can do for you.

    Redknapp was hailed as a miracle worker when he took over Spurs for motivating them and getting them going with the same players that Ramos bought in, Roy has 'one of the worst results in Liverpools History' and its someone elses fault.

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      Even if you concede that they are Rafa's players, Roy picked the team, he could have picked our first 11 which should have won the game comfortably, he chose to pick a team he thought could do the job and was wrong, he also didn't have senior players on the bench as backup! At least two huge error that are down to him.
      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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        Originally posted by joyno View Post
        lets all email GOD if there is one.
        We'll need a full list of all contacts in heaven

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          Originally posted by joyno View Post
          lets all email GOD if there is one.
          [email protected]

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            Originally posted by joyno View Post
            lets all email GOD if there is one.
            [email protected]
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              Originally posted by Rafa_el_Gafa View Post
              If we lose on Saturday we are in deep deep trouble
              Do you know what? I don't think losing would be the worst thing in the world as I honestly believe we need a change of manager and the sooner the better. If we win it just gives him more time for the inevitable which is falling into mediocrity. I don't blame Roy but those that made the decision. I hope they're big enough to change things quickly.

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                are we just finding our level after a lack of investment?

                the wole club is low ROy cant turn it round quickly if at all.

                i didnt want Roy but its not all his fault. The same problems Rafa had Roy has they havent gone away.

                Roy isnt a bad bloke and the level of personal insults at him are a bit ott but during a match we are all emotional so its likely. the fact i actually didnt see it means i escaped more crap

                the problem is deeper than Roy it was deeper than Rafa

                change the manager and the problems are still there.

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                  Wasn't arsed about the Carling Cup but that's a ****ing embarrassing way to go out of it. We're very much in a transitional state at the moment, but that's got to rank as one of our worst ever defeats, despite the mitigating factors of playing the kids. As Roy well knows, football is a results business. 10 points out of the next 12 (as we should expect to get) and we'll be sitting nicely in the top 6 or so, doing well in Europe, and out of the distraction of the Carling Cup (we'll have forgotten how we went out by then). Anything less, and he could be gone by November!

                  [edit - sacking him now would be mental though! You don't sack managers for a **** result with the reserves in a competition you couldn't care a toss about. You do sack them if you're safely in the bottom half of the table after 10 games when you're supposed to be challenging for the top four though]
                  Last edited by calvoboy; 22-09-10, 10:51 PM.

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                      Originally posted by El Diego View Post
                      I remember andy Gray always taking the piss out of rafa for not making subs until the 65 min. Why isn't anyone mentioning Roy doesn't like using subs
                      hes old and has probably forgotten about them. "hey mike why are playing in red, at anfield and where's etuhu?'

                      dear oh dear...
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                        Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                        Even if you concede that they are Rafa's players, Roy picked the team, he could have picked our first 11 which should have won the game comfortably, he chose to pick a team he thought could do the job and was wrong, he also didn't have senior players on the bench as backup! At least two huge error that are down to him.
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                          Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                          Terrible result, just terrible.

                          However, calling for Hodgson's head over it is a bit silly imo. Who would we get to replace him right now? Its not like we've never had this sort of result before, I remember some rather ignominious cup results under Rafa. And I'll never forget losing to Peterborough some years ago.

                          Embarassing yes, but sack a manager over it in September, even one most of us think could be out of his depth? That wouldn't help imo.
                          A calm head when all around are losing theirs

                          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                          Even if you concede that they are Rafa's players, Roy picked the team, he could have picked our first 11 which should have won the game comfortably, he chose to pick a team he thought could do the job and was wrong, he also didn't have senior players on the bench as backup! At least two huge error that are down to him.
                          Nearly everyone on this forum was calling for Roy to use this competition to blood some of the youngsters, now your all calling for his head over it.

                          It's a shocking result but some of you need to get a grip FFS
                          We managed to rectify it, though, because it now says, "Cook" where it once said "Cock", and "Pass" where it once said "Piss", so it’s slightly less rude.

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                              Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                              Terrible result, just terrible.

                              However, calling for Hodgson's head over it is a bit silly imo. Who would we get to replace him right now? Its not like we've never had this sort of result before, I remember some rather ignominious cup results under Rafa. And I'll never forget losing to Peterborough some years ago.

                              Embarassing yes, but sack a manager over it in September, even one most of us think could be out of his depth? That wouldn't help imo.
                              Is it silly though?

                              Worst start for 18 years in the league

                              Fail to win Saturday and its the worst start for over 50 years (since we got relegated in the 50's)

                              Out of the League Cup by a side 17th in League 2 (or 3rd from bottom in the 4th division for any old arses like me out there)

                              He NEVER should have been appointed and how the **** we overlooked Kenny for him is beyond ****ing belief
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                                Originally posted by liverpooltj View Post
                                You know its bad when TLW server crashes
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