Rafa - No Way Back?

[Mattshark]

Well, she's still on Living quite a lot.

That's a bit ironic isn't it.

[danperkins]

Well, she's still on Living quite a lot.

That's a bit ironic isn't it.

harsh been witty as ****, well played sir

[Leyton388]

Well, she's still on Living quite a lot.

That's a bit ironic isn't it.

Bravo!

[Shaggy]

Bravo!

No, Living.

[Leyton388]

No, Living.

Was waiting for someone to bite.

[dom9]

No, Living.

+1

[Mostar]

Yeah but Rafa is a rubbish man manager so it was probably the change of kit man that made the difference.

Should of stuck with Rafa. With all the ****e going on in our boardroom he was always trying to do whats best for the club.

Roy isnt in the same league as rafa ... nuff said

Not bad for your first post

[Mostar]

No, Living.

+2

[Roboklopp]

Ha ha.

[DannyMan2006]

This.

How is me not caring about what people think arrogant? Should I worry about what strangers think about me over the internet?

[red g]

How is me not caring about what people think arrogant? Should I worry about what strangers think about me over the internet?

the world would be a better place if you did.

[DannyMan2006]

the world would be a better place if you did.

Ah well

[DannyMan2006]

I read the threads lately and it seems everyone wanted Rafa to stay and no one wanted him to leave. So I thought I'd do a quick search and see if that was the case.

Dug up a few threads.


Quote:
21/11/09: Are you 100% behind Rafa? http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/poll...lts&pollid=496

Poll results:

Yes 74.34%
No 25.66%

Quote:
15/01/10: Should Rafa stay or go? http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...highlight=rafa

Rafa should be sacked straight away - 13.99%
Unless Rafa finishes 4th he should be sacked - 22.38%
Let him get to the end of the season then sack him even if we get 4th - 9.09%
Regardless of what happens he deserves 1 more season, he will get it right - 54.55%

I'm sure their were other polls but I can't be bothered to find them all.

To those who suggest I am anti Rafa, I am not. I posted in this thread : http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...highlight=rafa dated 31/05/10 and posted the following:


Quote:
I would give him the boot as he failed to meet the minimum objectives of qualify from the group stages in the CL and more importantly, failed to finish top 4.

I don't deny he has been restriced due to the owners, they must take the brunt of the blame for our lack of title challenge. But our squad should still have been good enough for 4th and the fact it didn't I put down to lack of motivation from the manager, of failed tactics.

That said, I wouldn't just kick him for the sake of it. He is a top manager still and I would only let him go if we could bring in another top quality manager. Had we been able to get someone like mourinho in, I would have had to have said adios. But I see there little chance of us recruiting a top manager in, so I guess he has to stay.

I highlight the part which I said all along. And I have more than enough past posts I can dig up that show I no way wanted Hodgson anywhere near us.

But my main point is this. Rafa lost the backing of the fans. Many wanted him out. Many wanted him out without even stopping to think if we could get any better. Well some people got what they wanted.

I am no fan of Roy. But he is Liverpool FC manager and deserves the fans backing. We are not Newcastle FC. We support our managers in the hard times. He is not going anywhere at least until the ownership issue is resolved so I emplore you all, back him until then and see if he can turn it around.

[little dave hedgehog]

I read the threads lately and it seems everyone wanted Rafa to stay and no one wanted him to leave. So I thought I'd do a quick search and see if that was the case.

Dug up a few threads.


Quote:
21/11/09: Are you 100% behind Rafa? http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/poll...lts&pollid=496

Poll results:

Yes 74.34%
No 25.66%

Quote:
15/01/10: Should Rafa stay or go? http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...highlight=rafa

Rafa should be sacked straight away - 13.99%
Unless Rafa finishes 4th he should be sacked - 22.38%
Let him get to the end of the season then sack him even if we get 4th - 9.09%
Regardless of what happens he deserves 1 more season, he will get it right - 54.55%

I'm sure their were other polls but I can't be bothered to find them all.

To those who suggest I am anti Rafa, I am not. I posted in this thread : http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/show...highlight=rafa dated 31/05/10 and posted the following:


Quote:
I would give him the boot as he failed to meet the minimum objectives of qualify from the group stages in the CL and more importantly, failed to finish top 4.

I don't deny he has been restriced due to the owners, they must take the brunt of the blame for our lack of title challenge. But our squad should still have been good enough for 4th and the fact it didn't I put down to lack of motivation from the manager, of failed tactics.

That said, I wouldn't just kick him for the sake of it. He is a top manager still and I would only let him go if we could bring in another top quality manager. Had we been able to get someone like mourinho in, I would have had to have said adios. But I see there little chance of us recruiting a top manager in, so I guess he has to stay.

I highlight the part which I said all along. And I have more than enough past posts I can dig up that show I no way wanted Hodgson anywhere near us.

But my main point is this. Rafa lost the backing of the fans. Many wanted him out. Many wanted him out without even stopping to think if we could get any better. Well some people got what they wanted.

I am no fan of Roy. But he is Liverpool FC manager and deserves the fans backing. We are not Newcastle FC. We support our managers in the hard times. He is not going anywhere at least until the ownership issue is resolved so I emplore you all, back him until then and see if he can turn it around.

are you on crack? these polls show he had way more support than not. this doesn't show any kind of lack of support.

and i don't really see why we should care what, in hyperspecificity, your view on the matter is. are you clearing your conscience? what's the point of this?

[Arn]

We had a manager that was one of us. A manager that didn't care if he may be sacked if he made certain comments about our owners. It was more important to fight them and try and save the club than to keep his job. One of us.

We had a manager that even put the club before the funeral of his father. We had a manager that sat in the stands watching us play even when he was in a lot of pain. I think he even watched a reserve team game at that time even that the doctors ordered him not doing it. He just loved the club and fans to bits.

We had a manager that know when he makes mistakes and time after time corrected them and made the team better after bad periods.

I wonder when we will get a manager again that know and understand The Liverpool Way the way Rafa did? He was one of us.