Liverpool vs Sunderland post match

[vonk]

we'll see.

those against his appointment certainly have some decent ammunition at present.

Strange that two well respected managers are stuggling with basically the same set of players. I think the players themselves need to stand up and be counted. Skrtel did step up today.

Skrtel was our best player by a mile. Glen Johnson does my head in though.

[vonk]

im gonna say it again and im probably gonna get helled for it but....

sack the miserable un-inspiring un-charasmatic old fart and give O'Niell the job!

i like roy as well, hes a lovely man but he is in waaaaayy over his head

You just prefer the jump up and down on the touchline style of management. O'Neill would be a bigger long ball merchant.

[SRR]

I don't think Roy is brilliant. I do like him though.

I just love the way people think its purely down to one formation or the other. If you're best players are out of form and lacking confidence you'll struggle.

What I have realised is that where as last year I thought a new manager would get more out of the team than Rafa was, perhaps I was wrong. The cloud hanging over the club is ****ing whoever is in charge. BUT I'm still happy Rafa ain't here because I was fed up with him and his attitude. So even though the results are poor I'm still watching every game whereas last season I had no fire left in my belly and was fed up with football. Come December I'll know whether I was backing the wrong horse in Roy though.

You seriously can't still believe Roy is a better choice than Rafa. I have seen nothing to say we are going to do any better this season. The negative attitude from Roy and the negative tactics are depressing for all Rafa's faults he did set the team up to control matches, something that Roy seems incapable to do. The sooner he is gone the better.

How does the banner go “Shankly laid the foundations, Paisley built the house, now Rafa’s doing the garden", the rate things are going it'll need to be amended to include then Roy burnt it down.

[SRR]

Out of interest, how much would our club be worth in the first division?

Probably be able to pick it up cheap as we'll be in administration.

[vonk]

He needs to go NOW

Lads out of his depth

Can you really see this happening NOW?

[malg]

Bye Hodgson thanks for the memories.

[Shaggy]

Bye Hodgson thanks for the memories.

[CJ]

I don't see anyone is defending it. We are playing **** at the moment and it's the managers job to correct it of course, but calling for a managers head after 6 League games smacks of a new Sky generation of Liverpool fans who have no patience and a complete lack of a grasp of reality.

Liverpool Football Club are not going to sack a manager after this amount of games and no amount of forum rants are going to change that. We're not ****ing Newcastle United. He will get time, even if we get new owners. This is not the time to call for a change of manager. The club is in turmoil and we need to support the players, the manager, and the board members who are trying to stop the fat Texan getting control of the club.

Back to football. The reason we didn't win today was because Gerrard and Poulsen were completely bossed in midfield by Cattermole and Henderson. It was only when Meireles came back to play alongside Gerrard and Torres had a partner that we controlled the game. I hope Roy learns from this. Time will tell.

im not calling for Roy to go. However a few more results like this and the pressure will keep building. Its a results business and if you dont get them you go. Whether its right or wrong it does happen. If we were being unlucky or making progress then there would be less unease.

Lots didnt want Roy so every bad result just confirms what they thought. Some think that Rafa had gone as far as he could so we needed change.

however some lambasted Rafa for negative tactics lack of creativity and they dont do the same when arguably we are worse now.

Its not all Roys fault like it wasnt all Rafas fault i just dont get how some people could not bring themselves to defend Rafa but they defend what looks to be worse.

[red g]

on a high? on a ****ing high?

He must be high if he thinks we end this week happy......he does realise where he is doesnt he?

disgraceful comment.

[BobTheCharmer]

You seriously can't still believe Roy is a better choice than Rafa. I have seen nothing to say we are going to do any better this season. The negative attitude from Roy and the negative tactics are depressing for all Rafa's faults he did set the team up to control matches, something that Roy seems incapable to do. The sooner he is gone the better.

How does the banner go “Shankly laid the foundations, Paisley built the house, now Rafa’s doing the garden", the rate things are going it'll need to be amended to include then Roy burnt it down.

I was fed up of looking at Rafa on the touchline, in press conferences and in general. What part don't you understand?

I'm not asking anyone else in the entire world to share this view. Its mine and I'm keeping it.

[ronanm]

on a high? on a ****ing high?

He must be high if he thinks we end this week happy......he does realise where he is doesnt he?

disgraceful comment.

[ronanm]

I was fed up of looking at Rafa on the touchline, in press conferences and in general. What part don't you understand?

I'm not asking anyone else in the entire world to share this view. Its mine and I'm keeping it.

[CJ]

so as long as we have a manager who your not bored to look at thats ok.

its a shame that in football tactics systems players and motivation oh and luck play a part.

still one day the game may evolve to the point where you being bored of looking at them makes a difference

[CJ]

Though bobs approach does have its pluses



surely if being whether you get bored looking at them the picture above is the future not the one below

[SRR]

I was fed up of looking at Rafa on the touchline, in press conferences and in general. What part don't you understand?

I'm not asking anyone else in the entire world to share this view. Its mine and I'm keeping it.

What makes you think I don't understand it I was just commenting on your reasons why you wanted Rafa to go and asking whether you were happy with Roy's negative approach and attitude.

Like you I have my view and that is Roy is out of his depth.