Originally posted by Arn
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As you've said elsewhere mate- Carra and Gerrard. Plus Inter.3rd place. Worst champions ever.
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Sadly I can't see Benitez coming back, at least not for a long time and probably never. There is no way he's going to leave Inter right now - that's a crazy idea..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.Comment
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Was thinking that myself.Originally posted by kris90210 View Post
Two clear canditates if you read the thread (three if you do include Rafa).If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?Comment
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Originally posted by rcasemore View Post
We really aren't far away from a decent side it's just being held back by a manager so far out of his depth it's not funny!
We are currently 8 points away from fourth. With a good injection of funds in January, a good manager will be able to get us to fifth to seventh position if we act soon. However, we need to act soon. Couple of more PL games and we will be around 12-14 points away from fourth and with an unsalvageable season.Comment
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We're in mid-October and the ONLY win we have in the PL was scraped 1-0 at home against West Brom.
Dire performances all round, getting humiliated home and away.
The worst manager we've had in at least 50-60 years, possibly ever.
Roy, just go now, go tonight.Comment
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Like every other team this year, they actually outplayed us and were unlucky to lose.Originally posted by Montana View PostIf we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?Comment
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Shocking.Originally posted by Montana View PostThanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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DaveM__: RT @Maldini: poll on YNWA.tv "Should the new owners sack Roy Hodgson with immediate effect?" -102 votes in 1 hour - 102 people say Yes #lfc @john_w_henryBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."Comment
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Originally posted by RedReet View Post
Also, why let Aquilani go on loan? He scored today and by all accounts is staying fit and doing well. Certainly a decent player to come off the bench. Another mistake.Comment
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3rd place. Worst champions ever.Comment
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From RAWK
It’s approaching ten o’clock, April 29th 2010. Liverpool are thirty minutes away from their third European cup final in five years. Admittedly, not the big one on this occasion, but the atmosphere generated from Anfield that night put everybody under no allusion that the Kop faithful wanted this.
The man that signed from Roma the previous summer had bagged his first goal for the club, bursting in on the edge of the box and smashing the ball past De Gea. He was at the heart of another scintillating move that was eventually put over by Dirk Kuyt in the first half. Liverpool were playing well: a rare occurrence in a season of turmoil, false promise and, at times, obscurity.
George Sephton clears his throat and updates the crowd over the tannoy with the score from the other semi-final played on the banks of the River Thames. Fulham had beaten Hamburg 2-1 and were in the Europa League final. The Kop greets the news with genuine applause. If Liverpool could see off Atletico Madrid, they would set up an all-English Europa League final. The job Roy Hodgson had done at Fulham was uttered among those in the stands and on the concourse. From the game at the City of Manchester Stadium where Diomansy secured a late goal to give Fulham a much needed boost in their fight against the drop to this. A truly remarkable achievement.
The feel-good factor evident in the crowd that responded generously to Fulham’s result would be short-lived. Yossi Benayoun doubled Liverpool’s advantage and celebrated like a man who knew he had potentially lifted a mounting burden off the entire club’s shoulders, but Diego Forlan responded for the visitors. A tired Liverpool failed to muster that one last push. Bringing on Nabil El Zhar in one last throw of the dice summed events up neatly: Liverpool’s strength in depth was simply not good enough. Atletico Madrid were in the final and they would go on to lift the trophy beating Fulham 2-1.
It was a season that sunk to depths Liverpool fans had forgotten existed. A 12:45 kick off at Fratton Park against a Portsmouth side that sat at rock bottom and were wondering whether where the money for their next set of pay cheques was coming from; and a Monday night match at the JJB stadium.
The promise that filled Anfield in the minutes before extra-time against Atletico Madrid mirrored the positive feeling in the months building up to the stadium. After finishing second the year before, Liverpool were supposed to carry the momentum on at the beginning of that campaign. They were supposed to bring home number 19. What transpired was more than just disappointing. It was downright depressing.
The following weekend, Chelsea visited and the atmosphere around the ground was strange. A win for Chelsea would all but prevent United winning the league, but no self-respecting Liverpool fan could bring themselves to openly cheer a side that contained players we had spent years despising. Ancelotti’s side came and left with a 2-0 win. The Liverpool players made their way around the pitch to salute the fans and Rafael Benitez acknowledged the fans chant for his name.
The backing for him was unconvincing, but it was there. The fans that backed him could look back at what he had brought the club as reference. They saw that we were making very clear progress until he was hamstrung by the American owners. Somewhat bizarrely, fans that were against him almost used Istanbul as a stick to beat him with: almost diminishing the achievement because he had failed to live up to those expectations since.
Two things are clear though: if we had beaten Atletico Madrid, there is surely no way he could have been given the boot so callously in the summer. And if things had worked our way in Athens, he wouldn’t have had such heavy criticism from certain quarters.
Regardless, it happened. Rafael Benitez left “by mutual consent” and the man that achieved what he couldn’t and got his team to the Europa League final was given the job. A man that was to both steady the ship and ‘release the shackles’. Whatever they mean. Yet the impressed nods and uttered words of praise that greeted his achievement in the stands and on the concourse a few short months earlier were now missing. People rightly scrutinised his past record and things didn’t exactly stack up.
Nevertheless, he came in, said the right things and promised to try and get Liverpool playing back the way we once expected. We brushed aside a few European teams (as we were expected to) and, when the opening game of the season arrived against Arsenal, we played with a passion and hunger that nobody can deny we lacked at times last season.
So where has it all gone wrong? I think the most telling moment for me was when we arrived at the City of Manchester Stadium and he based his team off the back of Martin Tyler's Monkey’s five year agenda. Gerrard as a central midfielder, two forwards up front. A 3-0 defeat at the hands of a very negative side set up by Roberto Mancini later and Roy is left shaking his head.
From there, we’ve seen a mixture of the bizarre and the ridiculous. The hugely talented Alberto Aquilani was sent away and effectively swapped by Christian Poulsen. We’ve approached games against relegation fodder as though an all-star eleven had come to town and we had to face them with nine men. Raul Meireles – a man that has played as a central-midfielder all of his career – has been shifted over to the right-side. Fernando Torres has received zero service. Daniel Agger has been ignored in favour of cluggers Jamie Carragher and Martin Skrtel and we have replaced a 21 year old Argentine, recently capped by his national side, with a man that has spent his entire career never sticking out in run-of-the-mill teams.
His handling of the media was said to be his greatest attribute. We were told they love him – he gives them the right quotes and never turns down an interview. And I believe them now. I bet every reporter and journalist in the country thinks he’s great. The problem is, every time he opens his mouth he makes a comment that you’d expect your drunk Grandad to come out with. He never once said anything that can be constituted as an effort of taking the pressure off his players and, recently, he appears exceptionally defensive of a very average record and is even referring to himself in the third person.
To put it mildly, I don’t think I have ever seen a man so far out of his depth and for me, there is nothing from what we have seen in 15 competitive games that suggests things will get any better.
Yes, he has had to put up with a lot of off-field problems and yes, it can’t be easy trying to focus your players. But that doesn’t excuse you when you field a side with eight players that travelled to the World Cup being outplayed by Blackpool. And two that didn’t are Pepe Reina – easily in the top five keepers in world football – and Joe Cole, our saviour. So the buck has to stop somewhere and in a week where we have finally seen the end of Tom Hicks and George Gillett’s reign, I’m still struggling to be positive. Because the thought of Roy being given a significant sum of money to invest into the team frightens the hell out of me.
John W Henry – do the right thing. Before the agenda is switched to all the projects that will help us build for the future, invest in now and bring in a man that will share your winning philosophy and also be able to deliver on it. If that man isn’t available now, then there was one sat behind you in the director’s box today that can keep the seat warm and unite the club at the same time.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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yeah it needs to be done soon otherwise it'll be a complete mountain to climb.Originally posted by peekay View Post
We are currently 8 points away from fourth. With a good injection of funds in January, a good manager will be able to get us to fifth to seventh position if we act soon. However, we need to act soon. Couple of more PL games and we will be around 12-14 points away from fourth and with an unsalvageable season.
it really is a change in tactics that's pretty much all we need to suit the players we actually have!Comment
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Current votingOriginally posted by Lecter View Post
Should the new owners sack Roy Hodgson with immediate effect ?
Yes (202 votes [98.06%]) Percentage of vote: 98.06%
No (4 votes [1.94%]) Percentage of vote: 1.94%Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."Comment
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Surely it's sensible to think of bringing someone new in, he's then got a few months to play about with the shower of ****e we have before adding a few of his own additions in Jan, finishing up challenging somewhere NEAR the top 4 (prays) then a few additional signings in the summer to round-up his line-up before getting the top-4 business done next season. Makes sense to me. Ok, maybe not as simple as that, but you get my drift.Originally posted by Montana View Post
Alternatively give Kenny a go till the end of the season, he surely has to have more of an idea than this clueless idiot...Reasses the situation in the Summer and either stick or twist..."If it's sent by ship then it's a cargo, if it's sent by road then it's a shipment..."Comment
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Personally yes I would otherwise we'll be dragged down to his level, if we're not already there!Originally posted by gibbo9 View Post
It was mentioned during the match today that there is a severance clause in his contract in the case of new owners. Does anyone know what that is? Would he still need to be paid off in full?Comment
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