Pack your bags Roy

[Craig_H]

Could it be that he previously felt that he'd play at CB back and didnt have to worry, whereas now he thinks if he doesnt play RB back, he wont get in the side at all? That's just one possibility.

I think people are jumping to fairly wild conclusions, TBH honest.

[Neil Young]

You're going far too far with that. You may disagree with the conclusions some of us draw here but they're not unreasonable or in any way 'wild'.

[red g]

But it's not just internet rumour. He himself said he wasn't happy to play right back last season. He is playing right back this season.

Those are facts not rumours.

Yes but to be fair, a right back under Roy doesnt need to attack, where as under Benitez he expected a lot mroe from full backs.

[Rich]

FWIW worth I agree with whoever said (I think it may have been you) that there's no need to get rid of him, it just needs a manager who is good enough to manage him (and Gerrard).

That would be the ideal scenario.

[Neil Young]

As for whether he'd get in the side, if he was that marginal, then you have to wonder why he's been offered a new contract, especially since, by his own admission, he's no longer physically capable of playing full back on a regular basis.

[Craig_H]

You're going far too far with that. You may disagree with the conclusions some of us draw here but they're not unreasonable or in any way 'wild'.

Only as far as some of the conclusions. But ok then, 'tame' conclusions.

Think you're reading a bit too much into the use of 'wild' there.

'Dramatic' conclusions? Shocking ones?

I can only describe as i see them and i think they're fairly wild.

[Craig_H]

Yes but to be fair, a right back under Roy doesnt need to attack, where as under Benitez he expected a lot mroe from full backs.

A very valid point.

[Neil Young]

Yes but to be fair, a right back under Roy doesnt need to attack, where as under Benitez he expected a lot mroe from full backs.

I can't tell whether that's a serious explanation or yet another jibe at Hodgson's expense.

[Kronenburg1892]

Well to add more smoke to the fire, his ghost writer for his book, was none other than NOTW Chris Bascombe.....

[JHP]

But it's not just internet rumour. He himself said he wasn't happy to play right back last season. He is playing right back this season.

Those are facts not rumours.

Could it be that he's not happy to play right back this season also, but maybe there were better options for the team last year than this year?

In which case what's the issue?

I'm worried he may have / had too much influence but I'm also worried about the lynch mob mentality that often persists on internet forums.

[Neil Young]

Only as far as some of the conclusions. But ok then, 'tame' conclusions.

Think you're reading a bit too much into the use of 'wild' there.

'Dramatic' conclusions? Shocking ones?

Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I do have some experience of how you argue sometimes. Perhaps I'm being too sensitive though.

Although since you're now suggesting 'dramatic' or 'shocking' as possible synonyms on an issue which will shock no-one on this forum since it's been around for a long time now (including I recall being raised by Shaggy only recently) then maybe I'm right to be careful.

As I've said, I think it's not a question of kicking him out the club but the conclusion he is more pro-Hodgson than he was pro-Benitez is hardly shocking or dramatic or wild.

Especially given the contrast between his public support of the new regime and his silence about Benitez last season.

[Neil Young]

Could it be that he's not happy to play right back this season also, but maybe there were better options for the team last year than this year?

In which case what's the issue?

I'm worried he may have / had too much influence but I'm also worried about the lynch mob mentality that often persists on internet forums.

I'm not lynching him so what's your issue?

So your position is that he decides where he wants to play based on his view of the options the manager has, right?

[Craig_H]

Maybe I'm reading too much into it but I do have some experience of how you argue sometimes. Perhaps I'm being too sensitive though.

Although since you're now suggesting 'dramatic' or 'shocking' as possible synonyms on an issue which will shock no-one on this forum since it's been around for a long time now (including I recall being raised by Shaggy only recently) then maybe I'm right to be careful.

As I've said, I think it's not a question of kicking him out the club but the conclusion he is more pro-Hodgson than he was pro-Benitez is hardly shocking or dramatic or wild.

Especially given the contrast between his public support of the new regime and his silence about Benitez last season.

If it's true that Carragher's genuinely calling the shots, i find that pretty shocking myself. I still find it difficult to believe that this could be allowed to happen to the extent that is being suggested. So i can only speak for myself, but i do genuinely find the suggestion shocking.

[Rudo]

So what happens if we beat West Ham next saturday, are we back on track again?

If NESV really wanted shot of Hodgson, i think they'd already be getting the wheels in motion so to speak and i there's no sign of them doing that. Quite the opposite in fact, going by their most recent comments, they seem to have faith in Roy.

[Craig_H]

Even if we beat WHU, things are most certainly not ok.

I expect them to sack Hodgson before too long, but they're in serious danger of waiting too long.