i happen to think it's dein we're after, but it's just 2+2 really, i don't have any info or anything. makes a lot of sense though. done well at the arse, tied up for a few more weeks or something at most, isn't he?
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Just a few things that i have heard from friends of mine in London. Most likely they got to the same conclusion i did through sound logic, but they do hear the odd thing from time to time, usually unimportant.Originally posted by Jack D Rips View Post
Look at the logic...
NESV really (and publicly) admire the Arsenal model. They want to replicate it, so its a safe bet someone with experience of the model would be preferable to them. Add to that availability. They wont want to wait too long, and as its likely the england bid has failed (not much press fanfare about it is there) he would be readily available.
My only caveat would be that he was vice-chairman at arsenal, and not CEO. Given our chairman isnt a football man, its not inconceivable that the CEO role will be a blur or finance and football, as opposed to a football chairman and a more of an operational type moneyman.
Raising the stadium finance in the best way and operational planning around the construction are key topics, so thats why i think the CEO job is Deins.
If we did appoint a headhunting firm to recruit, working on a 6 figure fee, they would have had a list of names within a week. You have to assume that Dein was suitable and available hence the logical progression.
It may be we get totally stumped and its someone from abroad we get, perhaps italy, with more of a knowledge of the continental setup, but i think for this role, good FA ties, knowledge of the league and past achievements are more relevant......Comment
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What a surprise. So, even while we did well, the cunts in the press hounded Rafa. Then we had one genuinely bad season and they hounded him out.
Yet we've apparently got to give Roy - every journo's mate - more of a chance. **** off.
Calm down, Anfield, Roy Hodgson deserves better than this
The Liverpool manager cannot win for losing in the eyes of many fans whose attitude is neither helpful nor fair
Paul Wilson
The Observer,
Sunday 28 November 2010
Once upon a time, Liverpool used to enjoy a reputation, one their supporters would proudly boast about, for not being the sort of club to sack a manager – certainly not after a few months in the job. One or two incumbents in the last few years may have been eased in the direction of the exit door but only after several seasons, never as a knee-jerk reaction. Since Bill Shankly demonstrated the enormous benefits a simpatico manager could bring to the club if allowed to go about his business without interference, the Liverpool way has been to try to appoint the right man in the first place, then back him to the hilt.
Either we now live in less patient times or the above model of trust and reciprocity was based on Liverpool always being able to deliver a certain level of success. Six months into Roy Hodgson's tenure several Liverpool fan websites have joined forces to publish the news that in an online poll of more than 4,000 supporters 95% would like to see the manager sacked immediately. The reason? Hodgson is not considered to be "up to the task" of managing Liverpool.
There may be other reasons too. Hodgson was unwise enough recently to criticise websites for writing ridiculous things, which is a bit like moaning that the rain is wet, and unsurprisingly took a dim view of supporters chanting "Dalglish" during losing Liverpool performances. If Hodgson is rubbing his new public up the wrong way, the feeling is mutual – though that does not make him a bad manager or even a poor choice for the Anfield job. Hodgson's exploits with Fulham alone suggest the opposite, not to mention his travels around Europe.
Purists may have a point in saying he is trying to impose a regimented and overly direct style on the side but simplicity has never been a dirty word at Liverpool. It appears at least as likely that Hodgson finds himself a convenient scapegoat, an easy outlet for a whole set of terrace frustrations, from American ownership to dwindling interest in domestic titles and dropping out of the Champions League bracket.
Given that Dalglish has been out of management for more than a decade and was not taken seriously by the board when he put himself forward for the job in the summer, there is no guarantee the former hero could do anything to restore former glories more quickly. Indeed it is almost tempting to hope his supporters might get what they wish for, just to see whose name terrace loyalists would chant were Dalglish to take Liverpool into the bottom three, lose at home to Northampton or take a beating at Stoke.
But that would be unfair on Hodgson. Before running out of steam at Wigan, then losing at the Britannia, Liverpool had put together an impressive sequence of four straight wins, including results against Chelsea and Napoli. Most teams would be happy with that, even Chelsea these days, but it was clearly not enough to convince Liverpool fans that Hodgson has what it takes.
The feeling is growing that nothing short of leading Liverpool instantly back to the top of the league, which is not going to happen, is going to produce a happy ending for Hodgson here. At the moment he cannot do right for doing wrong. When he spoke bluntly about Glen Johnson, quite reasonably suggesting the full-back could do better, the player took offence and the manager was criticised for his handling of senior internationals, even though most people, including Johnson himself, eventually, could see he had a point.
Now Hodgson is attracting flak for failing to promote Dani Pacheco, a 19-year-old Spanish starlet, quickly enough. Not many people have seen enough of Pacheco to have an opinion on the matter: he has appeared in only a handful of games in three years since being lured from Barcelona and one of those was the dismal Carling Cup defeat against Northampton. Hodgson's view is that Pacheco is not quite ready but no sooner had a move back to Spain been mooted than the fans were complaining that all Rafa Benítez's good work was being undone.
Even though there was common consent at the start of the season that Liverpool had far too many players who were nowhere near the first team and the squad needed trimming, Hodgson's assessment of fringe players is being questioned. Hodgson says Pacheco had his chance against Northampton and failed to impress. His critics say the manager was naive to send out a raw teenager against a highly motivated lower-league side looking for an upset.
In the middle of all this, Hodgson cannot win. Liverpool are in the Europa League, as were Fulham last season, but there is not going to be another thrilling run to the final. Liverpool could easily reach the final but it will not be thrilling. The Europa League is a hollow consolation for a club of their stature. Liverpool would dearly love to be where today's opponents, Spurs, are: rampaging through the Champions League group stage, coming back from two goals down against Arsenal, keeping in touch with the league leaders and worrying their manager might leave for England.
They should, though, consider where Spurs have been these past 49 years: not winning the league; nowhere near the European Cup; not even an FA Cup final since Gazza was a lad. Spurs have had to be endlessly patient and for that reason it is hard to begrudge them their success. Exactly the opposite applies to Liverpool and their hard-to-please fans ought to realise it. Plenty of others have waited 20 years for a title too, without two European Cup finals, a Uefa Cup, three FA Cups, three League Cups and regular Champions League football in the meantime.
After almost half a century of feasting, Liverpool fans are having to put up with a small famine and everyone has to know about it. You do not have to be Hodgson to feel that a period of silence from them now would be appreciated.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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That Paul wilson can **** right off.Comment
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You just have to laugh about that article. So many basic points wrong.
The Dalglish chants for example is more a way showing that we want to get rid of Roy. Nothing really to do with Dalglish at all. The journo can't even figure that one out. I don't think many of us want Kenny back long term. What we want is a top class long term solution.
It was Hodgson himself that started the war with the fans and he continues it every week. We are clearly idiots and Roy is some kind of god. That is more or less his view of things by the look of it. He is acting like a small time Mourinho. As big ego but not even close as good as him.Stop the cyberhate
from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a 
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That article is nonsense, another one of Roy's friends in the media.
I wish people would stop going on about him being a top manager and having a good record. His record in decent leagues in average at best, he may have done well in the backwater leagues of Europe, but even still he has only two trophies in his last 21 years of management.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
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I'm not sure Wilson is a proper journo though. I know he's been a 'columnist' in the Guardian for some time, but I'm not sure he's employed by them per se. He's always sounded like a bit of a **** to me.Are we winning?Comment
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Like it or not, the London media love him. And it is thanks to them he got the job. Fleet Street has a bigger say over the managers job at Lfc than the fans, which is laughable.
I've never been a fan of sacking a manager so soon, but I would always base that on getting the right man in the first place. If you don't hire the right man you're asking for trouble.
I think it's the first time we've hired someone who is clearly not the right choice, but sacking Rafa and being in dire straits didn't really leave us with many options. Should have got Kenny on a temporary basis.Forwards.......Comment
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So what he's trying to say is that we should be more like Spurs fans, you know, the Spurs fans who chased off Ramos inside 6 games of his first full season, mind you, he was a dirty foreigner so he had it coming.
What a pathetic article.Cult Member. Nazi puncher.Comment
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What a load of utter ****ing bull****. Seem to remember him getting all stroppy when I called him out for making **** up about Rafa's £300m spending saying "we aren't all accountants" when I introduced the concept of net spend.
Huge cock.3rd place. Worst champions ever.
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Speechless!
“Everyone I know in football respects the job I’m doing here and aren’t too surprised it hasn’t been an easy start. In fact, 95 per cent would have predicted it as [Jose] Mourinho did. ‘Liverpool will get worse and worse’ is what he said and if the great man Mourinho says it, I don’t know why you don’t quote him!”Comment
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Originally posted by Chris View PostSpeechless!
“Everyone I know in football respects the job I’m doing here and aren’t too surprised it hasn’t been an easy start. In fact, 95 per cent would have predicted it as [Jose] Mourinho did. ‘Liverpool will get worse and worse’ is what he said and if the great man Mourinho says it, I don’t know why you don’t quote him!”
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