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Last season at Fulham, after 17 games Roy had accumulated 26 points. This season with a higher-quality LIVERPOOL team, he has amassed just 22 points from the same number of games. 4 fewer points than last season where he had a weaker squad.
Last season at Fulham, he ended the season after 38 games with 46 points, just 20 more points than after that 17th game. 20 more points in 21 more games.
In those first 17 games his point average was 1.53; in the remaining 21 games his point average was 0.95 points per game. His 38-game points per game average last season was just 1.21 points per game.
This season with liverpool his 17 game point average is 1.29 points per game. if at this point last season you were to use his first-17 game average from last season (1.529411...) to project his 38 game point total for last season, he was on pace to earn 58.12 points (ended up with 46). if you were to project his 38-game point total for THIS season using this season's 17-game point average, he is currently on pace to earn 49.18 points.
last season, his 38 game total of 46 points was 20.85% lower than his 17-game average projection predicted the 38 game total would be at the end of the season (58.12).
if our real point total at the end of this season is 20.85% less than the 17-game average predicts it will be after 38 games (49.18), then we will have a massive 38.92 points at the end of this season.
Last season at Fulham, after 17 games Roy had accumulated 26 points. This season with a higher-quality LIVERPOOL team, he has amassed just 22 points from the same number of games. 4 fewer points than last season where he had a weaker squad.
Last season at Fulham, he ended the season after 38 games with 46 points, just 20 more points than after that 17th game. 20 more points in 21 more games.
In those first 17 games his point average was 1.53; in the remaining 21 games his point average was 0.95 points per game. His 38-game points per game average last season was just 1.21 points per game.
This season with liverpool his 17 game point average is 1.29 points per game. if at this point last season you were to use his first-17 game average from last season (1.529411...) to project his 38 game point total for last season, he was on pace to earn 58.12 points (ended up with 46). if you were to project his 38-game point total for THIS season using this season's 17-game point average, he is currently on pace to earn 49.18 points.
last season, his 38 game total of 46 points was 20.85% lower than his 17-game average projection predicted the 38 game total would be at the end of the season (58.12).
if our real point total at the end of this season is 20.85% less than the 17-game average predicts it will be after 38 games (49.18), then we will have a massive 38.92 points at the end of this season.
"It doesn't bother me because I can't do more than I am doing, I can't work harder, I can't work better," added Hodgson, whose team play his former club Fulham at home in the league on Saturday evening.
**** off right now! Bell-end!
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Liverpool owners understand Champions League qualification will be difficult this season - Roy Hodgson
Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson believes that the club's new owners understand that bringing Champions League football back to Anfield will be a difficult task.
On Monday, owner John Henry had labelled results so far this season as “unacceptable”, and although Hodgson agreed, he believes there will not be a sudden reaction by NESV that could signal the end of his reign at the Merseyside club.
"The owners are very intelligent people and have a very clear vision. What they want is for the club to be in the top four," Hodgson said.
"But what they also realise that coming in when they have come in [buying the club in October], and me coming in when I did [July], it might not be quite as easy as all that.
"It is not a question of waving a magic wand and we are going to get there.
"There is a lot of work to be done and I need to know at some stage that I am having a bit more input into who is coming into the club so I can take even more responsibility for it.
"At the moment I am working largely with the team who have been here for a large period of time but I am happy with that and the work those players are doing, I am not complaining in any way.
"But the owners know there is work to do in every area of the club, not least in terms of recruitment and it will be interesting to see how quickly we push that on.
"The quick fix may not be the right thing, it may be a more patient approach and they mentioned that.
"It may take some time - hopefully sooner than later, hopefully this year rather than next or next year rather than the year after.
"With the owners' help we will get it 100 per cent right because we will improve the team as well.
"Everything for me with the owners has been 100 per cent positive, they have been absolutely excellent."
Meanwhile, although Liverpool’s form in the Premier League has been indifferent this season, their recent results in Europe have been more positive.
The Reds host FC Utrecht in the Europa League on Wednesday night, having not lost in nine in the competition and already qualified, topping Group K.
And Hodgson feels that the results in Europe have helped ease some of the pressure so far but now understands he has to deliver.
“This is a club with a great legacy, a club which expects - not just wants - to win things and certainly in Europe where we have been very successful," he said.
"I do feel the pressure of that legacy and as a result I am really satisfied I, not wanting to be the Liverpool manager who didn't get his team into the knockout stage, have had the courage to do what we have done in Europe.
"If I could be as satisfied with our 17 league games as I am with our European games I would be a very happy man."
"I do feel the pressure of that legacy and as a result I am really satisfied I, not wanting to be the Liverpool manager who didn't get his team into the knockout stage, have had the courage to do what we have done in Europe."
Roy joins the pantheon of great LFC managers in getting the club into the knockout stages of the Europa League.
We're in a vicious circle now and there's no escaping it. Whatever happens now the inescapable scenario is that Roy is justifying his existence. If we lose he's going to come out with the counterproductive defence of his post, if we win Sky act as enablers to him and allow him to deliver a subjective view on his merits. Whichever way you look at it Roy is talking about Roy (and as he's demonstrated no good can come from Roy talking about anything, least of all himself).
I reckon he's here for at least the year now and I think Comelli will buy in Jan. It'll be interesting to see what he does with the new players. Given his record I think he'll stink up the league with them and will say either 'They aren't my players and don't fit my style of play' or 'I've only had a short period of time to work with these new players'. But, what would people think if he actually got them all performing (good, attractive, attacking footy too. Not just winning footy) and learned to keep his mouth shut (or at least master brevity and ambition).
Basically, at what point now would people begrudgingly accept a Hodgson tenure at the club?
A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.
We're in a vicious circle now and there's no escaping it. Whatever happens now the inescapable scenario is that Roy is justifying his existence. If we lose he's going to come out with the counterproductive defence of his post, if we win Sky act as enablers to him and allow him to deliver a subjective view on his merits. Whichever way you look at it Roy is talking about Roy (and as he's demonstrated no good can come from Roy talking about anything, least of all himself).
I reckon he's here for at least the year now and I think Comelli will buy in Jan. It'll be interesting to see what he does with the new players. Given his record I think he'll stink up the league with them and will say either 'They aren't my players and don't fit my style of play' or 'I've only had a short period of time to work with these new players'. But, what would people think if he actually got them all performing (good, attractive, attacking footy too. Not just winning footy) and learned to keep his mouth shut (or at least master brevity and ambition).
Basically, at what point now would people begrudgingly accept a Hodgson tenure at the club?
I don't want him here at all but I'm prepared to put up with him until the summer, assuming the owners get someone good in then.
There is no evidence to suggest he could ever get us where we want to be - he's not up to the job. So the point is moot.
. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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78% - Blackpool (78.0%) have recorded a higher pass completion than Liverpool (77.9%) in the PL this season. Pleasure.
Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
I wonder is this the longest thread in est's history? Surely it has to be?
There is another
You like the choons Dan?
A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.
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