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    Originally posted by Reece View Post
    Do you think? I'd say it's only used as a point of reference when slagging him off, rather than the reason for slagging him off.
    i think it gets thrown in for good measure.

    either way it doesn't reflect on us too well. and what's worse, it makes cunts like the above seem as though they have a point.
    dave of mutilation

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      Originally posted by malg View Post
      I would accept a manc managing us if it meant us doing well so any anti southern thing is crap.
      yeah, because if any one of us isn't guilty, then none of us are.
      dave of mutilation

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        Originally posted by malg View Post
        I would accept a manc managing us if it meant us doing well so any anti southern thing is crap.
        Not sure I'd go that far

        But yeah on the whole fans want success, and don't really care where the manager is from.

        Similar to players really, whilst it's always nice to have local lads in the team, at the end of the day it doesn't really matter where they are from if they are performing. And who didn't love our Spanish armada

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          their were elaborate devices to get the players passing in triangles.
          first of all, what ****ing journalist wrote this that can't sort out his theres.

          and secondly, does anyone else get the feeling this involves "gentle" electric shocks?
          dave of mutilation

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            Originally posted by Reece View Post
            Not sure I'd go that far

            But yeah on the whole fans want success, and don't really care where the manager is from.

            Similar to players really, whilst it's always nice to have local lads in the team, at the end of the day it doesn't really matter where they are from if they are performing. And who didn't love our Spanish armada
            i'm not saying it's rampant but at times it's noticeable.
            dave of mutilation

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              Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Post
              first of all, what ****ing journalist wrote this that can't sort out his theres.

              and secondly, does anyone else get the feeling this involves "gentle" electric shocks?
              Haha - Ian Herbert - also writes for the Independent so no excuse for such mistakes.

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                I'm shocked that the **** is still here and Up is not my favourite Pixar film - hugely disappointing on both fronts.

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                  Originally posted by Reece View Post
                  dave of mutilation

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                    Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Post
                    i think it gets thrown in for good measure.

                    either way it doesn't reflect on us too well. and what's worse, it makes cunts like the above seem as though they have a point.
                    To be honest Dave, I think it's more down to the Northern/ Southern rivalry that is quite prevalent in British Society than anything else. maybe if Southerners weren't so soft us Northerners would be less desparaging of their ways. I'll give you a few examples. It snowed quite heavily recently and The North was hammered first. Brutally so. However, focus on the problems caused by the weather only occured when the soft southern softies realised that they couldn't find their snowboots in time to leave the house. The problems of the North received no sympathies. Add to that that Southern men actually wear coats when it gets cold too, not the women but the men!! Appalling behaviour.

                    But more importantly the majority of abuse that is heaped on Liverpool and it's fans has it's origins in the London based papers of the south. They seem to have a rapid fire reactor system that is exceedingly quick to point out the deficiencies in our fans and club but they are reluctant to heap the same sort of criticism on the like of 'Arry Redknapp and his Tottingham Hotspur crook mates. The London based media had picked their side in this issue and they picked Team Roy. Defended their own at the cost of rationale and reason.

                    So that may be why their is a bit of the 'anti-cockeney' about some posts. Because of the media and because Southerners are all soft. Think Chicago views on New York for a US version.
                    A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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                      The seven shocking Liverpool results that have left Roy Hodgson on the brink
                      Defeat to Blackburn continues woeful form
                      By Harry Veal
                      5 Jan 2011 22:32:00
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                      The pressure is increasing on Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson after his side’s 3-1 defeat at the hands of Blackburn Rovers left the club languishing in 12th place in the Premier League table.

                      With Kenny Dalglish waiting in the wings to sweep in from an ambassadorial role to become caretaker manager at Anfield and reports suggesting that the club’s new owners FSG are already lining up his replacement, it seems as though Hodgson is living on borrowed time as the poor results continue to mount up.

                      It didn't take long for Hodgson's reign to take a turn for the worst, and bad results have regularly occurred since.

                      Here are just a few of the games that are likely to cost Hodgson his Anfield career…


                      Aug 23 - Man City 3-0 Liverpool (Premier League)




                      Although this game came too early on in the season to decide the outcome of Liverpool’s season, it did prove to be an early indicator that Hodgson’s side were lightyears away from competing with the league’s best sides.

                      Gareth Barry put City ahead in the first half, whilst a second half brace from Carlos Tevez left Hodgson with just a solitary point from their opening two league fixtures, perching just above the relegation zone in 17th place.


                      Sept 22 - Liverpool 2-2 Northampton (League Cup)



                      Although the League Cup has increasingly become a platform to showcase younger talents rather than compete for silverware in recent years, this humiliating third round exit to League Two strugglers Northampton Town was hugely disappointing for the Anfield faithful.

                      Although Hodgson’s team took an early lead through Milan Jovanovic, they never really pushed on from there, allowing the visitors to turn the game on its head through Billy McKay and, in extra time, Michael Jacobs. Only a late leveller from David Ngog took the game to penalties, although Liverpool’s reprieve was brief, as Abdul Osman converted the pivotal spot-kick to send Hodgson’s side crashing out of the League Cup at the first hurdle.


                      Oct 3 - Liverpool 1-2 Blackpool (Premier League)



                      If Liverpool fans had thought that their side would recover from their rocky start to the season with a win against newly promoted Blackpool, they were sorely mistaken, as Ian Holloway’s Seasiders inflicted yet another defeat that left Roy Hodgson’s side in 18th place, their worst start in the league for 57 years.

                      Hodgson admitted after the game that Liverpool were in a relegation battle and the manner of their defeat did nothing to calm worried supporters.

                      A Charlie Adam penalty and Luke Varney strike gave Blackpool a thoroughly deserved 2-0 lead at half-time and although Sotirios Kyrgiakos pulled one back for Hodgson’s men, the Seasiders held firm for a famous victory.


                      Oct 17 - Everton 2-0 Liverpool (Premier League)


                      Derby day defeat at the hands of a stuttering Everton side continued Liverpool’s poor run of form, and left Hodgson’s men languishing second bottom of the Premier League table.

                      New owner John W Henry attended the game after his £300 million takeover, but the American could only watch on as his team were completely outclassed by their crosstown rivals, who weren't exactly in hot form themselves leading into the game.

                      A close-range effort from Tim Cahill and a thunderous strike from Mikel Arteta underlined the gap in class on the day as another underwhelming performance from the Anfield side left them with just six points from their opening eight fixtures.


                      Nov 13 - Stoke 2-0 Liverpool (Premier League)


                      Another dismal performance against a spirited Stoke side saw Liverpool slip to yet another defeat in the league. Hodgson’s side looked devoid of any real cutting edge or goal threat as they were outplayed and outmuscled by a gritty Stoke side, with goals from Ricardo Fuller and Kenwyne Jones sealing a victory that saw the Potters leapfrog the Reds in the table.

                      Things could have been worse for Liverpool too, with Stoke denied what appeared to be a clear penalty when Maxi pushed Fuller in the area, and Lucas receiving his marching orders late on.


                      Dec 29 - Liverpool 0-1 Wolves (Premier League)


                      Defeat to Mick McCarthy’s bottom-of-the-table Wolves handed Liverpool their third league defeat in four games and had the Kop singing for the return of Dalglish.

                      Another typically dismal display from the Reds was summed up by the fact that they could only muster three shots on target in the game, the best of which saw Raul Meireles fire straight at Wayne Hennessey, with Stephen Ward condemning Hodgson’s men to defeat with his second-half strike.


                      Jan 5 - Blackburn 3-1 Liverpool (Premier League)


                      Tonight’s defeat at Blackburn just adds further fuel to the suggestions that Hodgson may soon find himself out of a job. A comfortable win for interim Rovers boss Steve Kean highlights just how far off the pace Liverpool are in the league.

                      First-half strikes from Martin Olsson and Benjani gave Liverpool fans that familiar sinking feeling and the Zimbabwean striker’s second of the game in the second half just confirmed yet another defeat for Hodgson’s men. Although captain Steven Gerrard pulled one back for the Reds, he wasted an opportunity to really haul his side back into the game when he blazed a penalty over with just six minutes left on the clock.

                      With the Anfield club languishing in mid-table mediocrity, it remains to be seen how long Hodgson can keep his job.
                      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                        a danish newspaper today reports that Hodgson already helt his goodbye speech to the players sometime after the blackburn game, being both depressed and emotional. The source should apparently be someone (a player) inside the club. But not the best of papers, so hard to say how much is in it.

                        The also mention Kenny as a potential candidate for the interim role as manager - but again not the best of sources.

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                          Originally posted by Rowan View Post
                          To be honest Dave, I think it's more down to the Northern/ Southern rivalry that is quite prevalent in British Society than anything else. maybe if Southerners weren't so soft us Northerners would be less desparaging of their ways. I'll give you a few examples. It snowed quite heavily recently and The North was hammered first. Brutally so. However, focus on the problems caused by the weather only occured when the soft southern softies realised that they couldn't find their snowboots in time to leave the house. The problems of the North received no sympathies. Add to that that Southern men actually wear coats when it gets cold too, not the women but the men!! Appalling behaviour.

                          But more importantly the majority of abuse that is heaped on Liverpool and it's fans has it's origins in the London based papers of the south. They seem to have a rapid fire reactor system that is exceedingly quick to point out the deficiencies in our fans and club but they are reluctant to heap the same sort of criticism on the like of 'Arry Redknapp and his Tottingham Hotspur crook mates. The London based media had picked their side in this issue and they picked Team Roy. Defended their own at the cost of rationale and reason.

                          So that may be why their is a bit of the 'anti-cockeney' about some posts. Because of the media and because Southerners are all soft. Think Chicago views on New York for a US version.


                          yeah i know. it said livrepool fans don't like roy because he's from london. so obviously it would be this sort of rivalry and strange fascination in the fleet street press. whether or not that's true, the fact that "**** off roy" is now and then lengthened to "**** off back to london, you southern *******" or similar is just making it easier for roy's apologists to try and portray him as the victim here. i don't honestly think that this is the reason we don't like roy at the club, that he's from croyden. i mean it obviously doesn't help, but that has more to do with associations with fredo to my mind. but i digress.

                          the point is, we should refrain from sounding like shallow, bigoted *******s. especially when there are plenty of fair reasons to ask for his resignation.
                          dave of mutilation

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                            Originally posted by Darkon View Post
                            a danish newspaper today reports that Hodgson already helt his goodbye speech to the players sometime after the blackburn game, being both depressed and emotional. The source should apparently be someone (a player) inside the club. But not the best of papers, so hard to say how much is in it.

                            The also mention Kenny as a potential candidate for the interim role as manager - but again not the best of sources.
                            i wonder which player they might have connections to

                            is that bt or ekstrabladet?
                            dave of mutilation

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                              Originally posted by Reece View Post
                              Nnicely balanced article that. Whilst obviously biased, thommo always seems one of the more sensible commentators on the game.
                              "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                              -- William Blake

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