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Hodgeson being woeful is not Rafa's fault. There must be vested interests at play though when many people are on here talking up Insua, Aquilani and saying there were people who thought 18m for Johnson was a steal. This place is daft at the moment. Everyone accepts Roy needs to go, nowt to discuss there, so people are looking to pick fights about every possible explanation. Rafa and his signings, Christian Purslow or whatever. Tedious times. I just hope Roy is sacked soon so we fan focus on the future.Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 years
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That was me.Originally posted by Operation View PostHodgeson being woeful is not Rafa's fault. There must be vested interests at play though when many people are on here talking up Insua, Aquilani and saying there were people who thought 18m for Johnson was a steal. This place is daft at the moment. Everyone accepts Roy needs to go, nowt to discuss there, so people are looking to pick fights about every possible explanation. Rafa and his signings, Christian Purslow or whatever. Tedious times. I just hope Roy is sacked soon so we fan focus on the future.
If you're interested... linkIf we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
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people are questioning rafas transfer record and rightly so.
However, whenever he went in for his first choice like torres, alonso, mascherano, reina he's pretty much nailed it bang on. Those players have all gone on to become genuinely world class players.
Im not convinced that aquilani was his first choice for that spot but you cant ignore the robbie keane issue. He was first choice although not first choice in order (or something like that with gareth barry).
Where rafa hasnt got it right is with his second or third choice targets. Players like babel and aquilani were all expensive players who havent lived up to expectations and that has to go against rafa.
Rafa had a picture of liverpool being a jigsaw in his mind with each player being a piece fitting precisely into a certain space. The problem that we have now is that the overall jigsaw has changed but the players havent so Hodgson is trying to build his own jigsaw with pieces that just dont fit.
In my opinion Roy Hodgson only has the 442 jigsaw in his locker.[B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]
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Originally posted by Craig_H View PostIf you cannot see that the debt equated to us having **** all to spend, and that for **** all money, you get **** all playing talent, then really, there's no hope for you.
Collymore was slating Rafa's signings last night, saying how they werent good enough at the highest level. He picked out Lucas, Jovanovic and Maxi. Total cost? £6m.
Well obviously, if you can only spend £6m on 3 players, what the **** do you expect to get? Iniesta, Messi and Ronaldo?
How you cant see the relationship between debt & not buying quality players, is beyond me.
If i give you £300 and ask you to go and buy me a high performance car, what are you going to come back with? A pile of turd. Would you accept blame for that? Would you ****.
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Can't ****ing believe that actually happened.Originally posted by Reece View PostOn a similar note, I noticed a fair amount of Everton fans getting Hodgson's autograph yesterday. Did they do that with Benitez? I don't know but I just can't picture it.
For that alone, he should be told to jog on.
Are we winning?
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i haven't seen any good reason from anyone to keep him on, people that want to keep he just say in blind faith that he'll get it right in time, despite there not being any signs of improvement
then there are the other that dont want him sacked simply cause we don't sack manager.
but he's useless and is dragging us through the gutter"I have decided to escape, to defy the shogun. Today I will begin walking the road to hell. But you will choose your own path. So, soon you may be seeing heaven. Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
"You would've been happier if you'd chosen to join your mother in her world. " - Ogami Itto
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Crazy poll results. I want him gone but put 'don't know' simply because of who he would be replaced by. Throw Dalglish the job then sure, get rid of Roy but someone of similar calibre then no thanks, might aswel hold onto him until he get's some kinda momentum (if that's even possible).
I wan't Roy gone but I want a replacement too. I seriously want to see Kenny as manager of our great club, even if it's till the end of the season it would be a great lift for the players and fans, also a wise move for the owners. There was a risk in giving Dalglish the job after Rafa BUT, that risk is no longer there, surely he can't do any worse a job than Roy?
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id rather have no manger than roy tbh"I have decided to escape, to defy the shogun. Today I will begin walking the road to hell. But you will choose your own path. So, soon you may be seeing heaven. Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
"You would've been happier if you'd chosen to join your mother in her world. " - Ogami Itto
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Roy Hodgson insists Liverpool performances prove they will climb Premier League
Roy Hodgson believes Liverpool’s performances against Manchester United and Everton prove they are good enough to escape the relegation battle despite the fact the Anfield side lost both games, conceding five goals.
By Rory Smith
Published: 7:15AM BST 20 Oct 2010
Roy Hodgson - Roy Hodgson insists Liverpool performances prove they will climb Premier League
The 63 year-old was upbeat after both the 3-2 reverse at Old Trafford and Sunday’s comprehensive 2-0 loss in the 214th Merseyside derby, insisting the latter was the best display he had witnessed from his players since taking charge in July, despite his counterpart David Moyes suggesting Everton allowed Liverpool plenty of possession safe in the knowledge the visitors would struggle to score.
“I am confident we can get out of the situation we are in and I base that on our performance at Manchester United, which is a very difficult place to go and play,” he said. “And I will base it on our performance at Everton, which is another very difficult place to go and play.
“If we are capable of playing as well as we have done in those two games away from home against top opponents then we are good enough to get out of this situation. But it will not happen overnight, we will need games to do it and we will need wins to do it.”
Hodgson admits Liverpool’s woeful start - the worst for a new manager since 1928 - and their abject league position, 19th, means his team is now under immense pressure to pick up points against Blackburn at Anfield on Sunday and the following week at Bolton.
“There will be an awful lot of pressure on the next game and the game after that because if we do not win those we are going to still be in the relegation zone,” he said. “We have to accept that pressure.
“[The failure to turn possession into goals] concerns me very much. We have got a top class striker in Fernando Torres and at the moment he is not scoring the goals we would hope he would.
"He was battered during the World Cup, vilified by all and sundry for his performances both in this country and in Spain. Mentally I think he is a little bit low about that.”
Meanwhile, Uefa delegates yesterday inspected the pitch at Napoli’s Stadio San Paolo, where Liverpool are due to play in the Europa League tomorrow night, after vandals broke in and damaged the playing surface. The game is expected to go ahead as scheduled.
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The good thing is that he is on to something here, we can hardly do anyhing but climb the table...
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Originally posted by Darkon View Post
Roy Hodgson believes Liverpool’s performances against Manchester United and Everton prove they are good enough to escape the relegation battle despite the fact the Anfield side lost both games, conceding five goals.


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Originally posted by Darkon View PostRoy Hodgson insists Liverpool performances prove they will climb Premier League
“[The failure to turn possession into goals] concerns me very much. We have got a top class striker in Fernando Torres and at the moment he is not scoring the goals we would hope he would.
"He was battered during the World Cup, vilified by all and sundry for his performances both in this country and in Spain. Mentally I think he is a little bit low about that.”
Why does he keep undermining the players like this? Why not actually talk them up - say - Torres has an outstanding record - an incredible talent - we all need to rally round - he'll come good. Hodgson is a tool of the highest order.
"The failure to turn possession into goals concerns me very much" - idiot! THEN SET THE TEAM UP TO ATTACK AND DONT SIT SO ****ING DEEP WITH THE STRIKER ISOLATED - jesus christ - it's not rocket science is it?"Love, love is a verb
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Because he's trying to deflect the blame from himself. It's the sign of someone out of their depth.Originally posted by Redbug1 View PostWhy does he keep undermining the players like this? Why not actually talk them up - say - Torres has an outstanding record - an incredible talent - we all need to rally round - he'll come good. Hodgson is a tool of the highest order.
"The failure to turn possession into goals concerns me very much" - idiot! THEN SET THE TEAM UP TO ATTACK AND DONT SIT SO ****ING DEEP WITH THE STRIKER ISOLATED - jesus christ - it's not rocket science is it?
I don't feel comfortable saying this as a Liverpool fan but there really is no point beating about the bush - Hoxha out..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.
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