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    #31
    Originally posted by red g View Post
    you saw your mistake then
    That is true red which is why I deleted my post... I misread your reply in realation to Craigs post... Sorry...

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      #32
      He needs to be sacked now since the two games against Blackburn and Bolton are winnable under someone else and we desperately need those 6 points we could get. Under Roy we will never get four let alone six, I guess two points from those games would be utopia under Roy.
      * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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        #33
        Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
        He needs to be sacked now since the two games against Blackburn and Bolton are winnable under someone else and we desperately need those 6 points we could get. Under Roy we will never get four let alone six, I guess two points from those games would be utopia under Roy.
        My god if he is jubilant after defeats he'd be wanking live on tv for a draw..

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          #34
          Originally posted by red g View Post
          1 14.08.2004 Tottenham Hotspur away D1-1
          2 21.08.2004 Manchester City home W2-1
          3 29.08.2004 Bolton Wanderers away L0-1
          4 11.09.2004 West Bromwich Albion home W3-0
          5 20.09.2004 Manchester United away L1-2
          6 25.09.2004 Norwich City home W3-0
          7 03.10.2004 Chelsea away L0-1
          8 16.10.2004 Fulham away W4-2 7
          9 23.10.2004 Charlton Athletic home W2-0
          10 30.10.2004 Blackburn Rovers away D2-2


          Our first 10 games under Rafa.
          So that's 17 points? That team had a good defence though, Finnan - Carra - Sami - Riise would piss all over Johnson - Carra - Skrtel - Konchesky.
          * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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            #35
            Originally posted by MosRay View Post
            My god if he is jubilant after defeats he'd be wanking live on tv for a draw..
            He said a win against Everton would have been utopia.....like it's something that we shouldn't have expected either way.
            * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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              #36
              Originally posted by red g View Post
              1 14.08.2004 Tottenham Hotspur away D1-1
              2 21.08.2004 Manchester City home W2-1
              3 29.08.2004 Bolton Wanderers away L0-1
              4 11.09.2004 West Bromwich Albion home W3-0
              5 20.09.2004 Manchester United away L1-2
              6 25.09.2004 Norwich City home W3-0
              7 03.10.2004 Chelsea away L0-1
              8 16.10.2004 Fulham away W4-2 7
              9 23.10.2004 Charlton Athletic home W2-0
              10 30.10.2004 Blackburn Rovers away D2-2


              Our first 10 games under Rafa.
              That's 5 wins 2 draws and 3 defeats, a total of 17 points the best Roy can hope for is 12. What worries me is if we win against Blackburn it'll buy him more time
              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                #37
                Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                He said a win against Everton would have been utopia.....like it's something that we shouldn't have expected either way.
                Worrying isn't it.. Fcuking utopia, he's utterly deluded...

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                  That's 5 wins 2 draws and 3 defeats, a total of 17 points the best Roy can hope for is 12. What worries me is if we win against Blackburn it'll buy him more time
                  although i just dont see it. Even a win would be scrappy and undeserved for sure.

                  I give him 3 games max
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                  Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

                  Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by red g View Post
                    although i just dont see it. Even a win would be scrappy and undeserved for sure.

                    I give him 3 games max
                    Our next 3 (Premiership) games are:

                    Blackburn (H)
                    Bolton (A)
                    Chelsea (H)

                    As things are at present I can't see us winning more than 1 of those even if we were lucky enough to draw the other 2 (unlikely IMO) that would give us 11 points after 11 games, that's still relegation form. I'm not sure how much longer we can afford to keep saying another few games.
                    The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by red g View Post
                      although i just dont see it. Even a win would be scrappy and undeserved for sure.

                      I give him 3 games max
                      I think if we struggle against Blackburn at home the Kop and probably half of anfield will be screaming for his head by full time...

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by MosRay View Post
                        I think if we struggle against Blackburn at home the Kop and probably half of anfield will be screaming for his head by full time...
                        Speially if we get nothing from a trip to Napoli either.
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                        Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

                        Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                          Our next 3 (Premiership) games are:

                          Blackburn (H)
                          Bolton (A)
                          Chelsea (H)

                          As things are at present I can't see us winning more than 1 of those even if we were lucky enough to draw the other 2 (unlikely IMO) that would give us 11 points after 11 games, that's still relegation form. I'm not sure how much longer we can afford to keep saying another few games.
                          We cannot it's that simple.. regardless of the possible results..

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                            #43
                            Worst thing is that the media are so hell bent on blaming Rafa, the players...that Roy is almost being given the green light to continue, who will nesv consult on this..and do we expect them to be advised to sack Hosgson.. i don't.

                            I really hope those fans they were meeting put them straight on the flop that is Hodsgson, and the need to act swiftly... he was quite simply the wrong appointment.

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                              #44
                              i just don't know what to think - i'm gobsmacked....everton fan in work..

                              it's not hodgsons fault, he had no chance/time time in the summer to mould his squad, rafa left him with a rotten squad, etc etc etc

                              right – lets’ get one thing straight – forget about rafa, forget about ownership issues.....lets just look at the players.


                              - Gerrard – top class midfielder,
                              - Torres – top class striker
                              - Reina – top class goalkeeper

                              - Johnson – regular international England right back
                              - Agger- classy centre back, experienced international highly thought off
                              - Carra – Liverpool legend, been there done it
                              - Joe Cole – many believe what Liverpool are missing – a ‘footballer’ something we have lacked – again experienced international with England
                              - Kuyt – mr reliable – experienced dutch international

                              So 8 players - that are of a capable standard. - As well as them, we have Konchesky (signed by hodgson) and Poulsen (hodgson signing who he has a hard on for)

                              As well as them – we have skrtel/kyriakos/lucas/ngog/maxi/meireles/jovanovic/babel

                              Who say what u want about them – between them they have played enough premier league/international/top level football.

                              On top of that – finally, we have Pacheco/shelvey/Kelly/Wilson and a few others, some of our most promising youngsters in a few years.



                              So – **** all the rafa/ownership/not enough time for hodgson ****e....

                              There is enough players there, to at least show something! That there is a sign of improvement, moving forward, or something that makes you think hmm this side when they gel will be ok

                              But i’ve seen nothing but ****e, non progressive, terrible terrible football in every match – the 8 premier league games, the 4 or 5 europa games and that Northampton game!!!

                              Even under souness/evans/houllier/benitez – when we were out of form, playing badly, you felt that a bit of luck would change it, or there was still signs that the next game we could put it right.


                              The worry for me is i am just not seeing anything of the sort – these players just don’t look capable of beating anyone

                              Something is badly wrong! – i do believe the players have to take a certain amount of responsibility – they have to look at themselves

                              But hodgson is certainly a major factor – he isn’t getting the players motivated, he obviously isn’t telling them to go and play like ****e, so he must be having issues with getting his ideas over, they are not responding to him for whatever reasons it just isnt’ working

                              I wasn’t expecting hodgson to come in, the team gel and we’d smash everyone! But he has been at the club now what 3 or 4 months and in total what about 15 games!! And i have not seen anything, that has made me think....hmm give him a chance, it just needs bit of luck, or anything.....everything he has done just makes me angry.....and the interviews are just cringy – did he really say that he believes that yesterday was the best he has seen us play under his management.....well **** me roy, it might well have been but that doesn’t say much about the other 15 games does it.
                              i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do

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                                #45
                                Had a massive barney with a Bitter Blue about the same thing. Here's part of his text.

                                "Everyone knows its not Roy's fault it was that Rafa, he left a load of ****e, he destroyed lfc. He is not a good manager."

                                Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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