Daniel Agger

[RedReet]

Good article on Agger's importance to Liverpool.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2011/03...-rejuvenation/

What plaudits has Reina been getting?

Personally, I think Skrtel will be dropped once Kelly is fit again.

[CJ]

i fully agree with that long article.

the problem with injury prone players is they get injured.

people who support different clubs have all been hoping the welsh boy sorts his injuries out

it doesnt happen.

and thats very sad for agger as the long post says he is to good and to important and is injured too often.

[Shaggy]

I like that. Hope we're saying the same at 33/34.

I am 33. I meant a young 26 as in nearer 26 than he is 27.

[Neil Young]

And it's not like we'll be calling him a young 26 when he's 33 or 34 anyway.

[RedReet]

I am 33. I meant a young 26 as in nearer 26 than he is 27.

My lucky number.

Oh, I thought you meant he was a young 26 in that he hasn't played that many games so we'll be able to prolong his career once we get him fully fit. A bit like people were saying when Owen was available. I like it anyway and will remain optomistic and look at it that way, ignoring the fact that every other time I've heard it, it backfires.

[RedReet]

And it's not like we'll be calling him a young 26 when he's 33 or 34 anyway.

Well I can still hope, CAN'T I?

[Arn]

i fully agree with that long article.

the problem with injury prone players is they get injured.

people who support different clubs have all been hoping the welsh boy sorts his injuries out

it doesnt happen.

and thats very sad for agger as the long post says he is to good and to important and is injured too often.

Owen and his type of strikers will almost always get sprinter type injuries every season because of their playing style. Suarez will get his share of them because of the same reason. That is something you must think about when you sign that type of players. Often they start their careers very early because speed is something you will notice and that gives them shorter careers because after a number of injuries their main asset, speed, will be a lot less effective.

[CJ]

Owen and his type of strikers will almost always get sprinter type injuries every season because of their playing style. Suarez will get his share of them because of the same reason. That is something you must think about when you sign that type of players. Often they start their careers very early because speed is something you will notice and that gives them shorter careers because after a number of injuries their main asset, speed, will be a lot less effective.

ok arnold as your a betting man.

what odds will you give me on agger never playing more than say 2/3 of league games in any one season for the rest of his career.

[Arn]

To be honest I think Arn identified the importance of Agger and Alonso to us in terms of playing out from deep areas several years ago and we haven't really replaced Alonso, putting the onus even more on Agger.

Johnson also seems to improve in terms of bringing the ball out when he has a footballing option inside him.

I have said for years that our manager must get rid of the wood-legs in the team and only sign up players that is very comfortable with the ball and can play free flowing football. The Carra type of defenders will soon be gone from top class football because they don't offer enough attacking threat.

The central defenders must now be good defenders and good defensive playmakers. They must cope being stressed and play one two touch football. Barcelona now talk about half touch football. If you have a central defender like Carra that is only a very good defensive defender then it hurt your attacking play to much to be worth using him. Maybe as an option if you want to close out the game but not from the start.

We need to get in more central defenders like Agger. At least one more maybe even two.

[Arn]

ok arnold as your a betting man.

what odds will you give me on agger never playing more than say 2/3 of league games in any one season for the rest of his career.

That of course depends on the league he play in. Not big chance in the PL. In Spain he would probably do it without that much problem because the referees protect players more and the climate is better. It is easier for example to get a muscle strain in a cold climate. If he played in Germany he would get a winter break and that would help him.

[CJ]

one problem with getting rid of carra is he is more reliable than agger.

Agger is by far the superior player and probably the far superior defender now

the problem as i keep saying is its not use from the treatment room.

i also have said if we were to sell him we would have to replace with someone of similar quality and ability but who remains fit

i know its a gamble but so is relying on a cb who misses so many games, especially when he is so important to us.

if we had a fit agger then in no way would i even think about cashing in on him.

so you want to take me up on that bet? remember he only needs to play over 2/3 of league games in any one season in the rest of his career for you to win.

[CJ]

That of course depends on the league he play in. Not big chance in the PL. In Spain he would probably do it without that much problem because the referees protect players more and the climate is better. It is easier for example to get a muscle strain in a cold climate. If he played in Germany he would get a winter break and that would help him.

good point. the problem for liverpool is we play in the PL not la liga or a league where he gets a winter break

anyway i think i made my point ages ago so there is not really any point in making it again and again and again. I have the library and the i hate apple thread for that.

[Arn]

good point. the problem for liverpool is we play in the PL not la liga or a league where he gets a winter break

anyway i think i made my point ages ago so there is not really any point in making it again and again and again. I have the library and the i hate apple thread for that.

The climate factor is a more important point than you could think. I doubt that Barcelona would be able to play in the same way in a cold climate because the players would get injured much more. A club in the PL will never be able to play in the same way because of the colder climate.

Rafa tried to play that way defensively, press all over pitch. Look how many injuries we picked up. Not a coincidence IMO. Team after team are now trying to do the same, the result, a lot of injuries. You simply won't be able to do that in the same way in a colder climate.

[CJ]

The climate factor is a more important point than you could think. I doubt that Barcelona would be able to play in the same way in a cold climate because the players would get injured much more. A club in the PL will never be able to play in the same way because of the colder climate.

Rafa tried to play that way defensively, press all over pitch. Look how many injuries we picked up. Not a coincidence IMO. Team after team are now trying to do the same, the result, a lot of injuries. You simply won't be able to do that in the same way in a colder climate.

I am not saying its Aggers fault.

The club he plays for is liverpool who play in the PL so the fact he may not get injured as much in spain is to be polite **** all use to us. I dont see up relocating somewhere warm in the near future.

[Arn]

If you look at the central defenders at the clubs that play in Europe from the PL then you would probably discover that Agger isn't injured that much more than most of them the last few years.

Man U have had big problems, Arsenal and Chelsea the same. Tottenham have now had their share of injury problems in defence.

The argument that playing a lot of games wasn't a problem 20-30 years ago is laughable. The players are stronger and more athletic. That means that you must train much more and that means that it puts more pressure on the body.

20-30 years ago you could survive looking like Molby. No chance doing that now.