Daniel Agger

[Mostar]

Pressure from our owners to cash in on an injury prone player before he's past his peak would be my guess.

I seriously doubt that.

Owners are not football experts by any stretch and they intrusted other people to run the club from them.

Saw somewhere that he'd missed ~45% of our league games in the last 5 years.

That does make him quite injury prone really.

I think I read somewhere that he either played or was available for 70% of all PL games.

[Gibbo]

If we let go of Agger (I'm not saying we are or we aren't) of be seriously worried about who we'd bring in as a replacement.

Coates IMO isn't ready yet and the thought of Ashley Williams isn't too appealing.

[Mostar]

If we let go of Agger (I'm not saying we are or we aren't) of be seriously worried about who we'd bring in as a replacement.

Coates IMO isn't ready yet and the thought of Ashley Williams isn't too appealing.

It will not be him no matter what happens.

[red g]

If we let go of Agger (I'm not saying we are or we aren't) of be seriously worried about who we'd bring in as a replacement.

Coates IMO isn't ready yet and the thought of Ashley Williams isn't too appealing.

It doesn't matter who we get in, They could swap us for Kompany, PSG could give us Silva. Barca sell us Pique or the next big thing in Hummels could come the reality is if this goes ahead it will cost us points early in the season.

Champions league is pretty remote hope at the moment sell Agger and its dead.

[MrMichael]

So LFC aren't inviting an offer but we are stalling long enough to see if we get one because it could be for a huge amount.

Is it just me that doesn't really get the difference here?

But what are we stalling on exactly?

[peekay]

Only that's not what we're doing.



"An element of"? Both those explanations are pretty dumb imo and indicative of unrealistic or utterly fictional views of how our club (or any club) operates. Nobody is forcing Agger out. Everybody at the club however lives in the real world and are prepared to think about a ridiculous bid. There is no scandal, conspiracy or anything else. Its just football.


Oh, and just in, now I know Bascombe isn't the messiah, but he's definitely as credible as a random muppet or two on twitter...

I think the quote by Stevie G on "It is upto the owners regarding Agger" was the reason why many people are having this paranoia regarding Agger being forced out by the owners. You have to admit, that was really an odd quote by our captain.

Having said that I dont think the owners will go against Brendan Rodgers's wishes and sell Agger. If Agger is sold, it will be with the blessing of our manager, no doubt about it. And given the possibility of raising 27-30 million, as I stated before, I can understand the economic rationale behind it.

After the events of the last week, one thing which is really clear is that Agger wants to be here, He does not want to move to any other club in England. Given the fact that we are not willing to pay extortionate wages, we will have to rely on the loyalty of a core group of world class players if we have to compete at the top. We cannot push out one world class player against his will and expect loyalty out of the others. What happens when Juve come in for Suarez next season offering improved wages? Suarez will know that LFC will sell him without batting an eyelid when it is convenient for them, so why dont I get out when it is convenient for me? We cannot sell Agger and then criticize Torres for wanting to move.

Another reason is that given our transfer disasters of the last two seasons, I think it is prudent that we do not do any large scale surgery of the squad. If Agger leaves and Brendan Rodgers does not live up to the required standards, we end up with a worser squad with one less world class defender.

[MrMichael]

I think the quote by Stevie G on "It is upto the owners regarding Agger" was the reason why many people are having this paranoia regarding Agger being forced out by the owners. You have to admit, that was really an odd quote by our captain.

Having said that I dont think the owners will go against Brendan Rodgers's wishes and sell Agger. If Agger is sold, it will be with the blessing of our manager, no doubt about it. And given the possibility of raising 27-30 million, as I stated before, I can understand the economic rationale behind it.

That quote from Stevie G is having far too much read into it. Seems to me he just meant that Agger isn't looking to leave, so a decision on whether he should be sold is purely down to finances. There's no inference that he's actually being sold in that or that anyone is forcing anything, just that the reality is that if we get a stupid offer we would have to think about it, and what could be done with that money. Financial considerations = the owners.

So I don't really think it was that odd a thing to say. Anyway, Stevie G is hardly the worlds greatest orator, or some sort of Machiavellian mastermind.

[peekay]

That quote from Stevie G is having far too much read into it. Seems to me he just meant that Agger isn't looking to leave, so a decision on whether he should be sold is purely down to finances. There's no inference that he's actually being sold in that or that anyone is forcing anything, just that the reality is that if we get a stupid offer we would have to think about it, and what could be done with that money. Financial considerations = the owners.

So I don't really think it was that odd a thing to say. Anyway, Stevie G is hardly the worlds greatest orator, or some sort of Machiavellian mastermind.

Maybe I had not presented by thoughts clearly. I agree with you that there is no big Machiavellian conspiracy where the owners are twisting Brendan Rodgers hand into selling Agger.

I also agree with you that this is a purely footballing decision based on finances which will have the blessing of our manager and the owners.

Maybe people are reading too much into our captain's statement.

As I said earlier rationally the sale can be justified. However somehow I cannot come to support it, not that it matters anyway

[Nicey]

Just go to show you why footballers speak like ****ing robots these days .... why ... because the fans are a pack of dozy bhallbags by and large who over analyze everything.. were do they get that from ... Skysports and all of the other ****e it has spewed on and offline

I can see me losing my **** over the next couple of seasons whilst this new system is bedding in .... I cant wait

[Mark79]

But what are we stalling on exactly?

Resolving Agger's future. Which according to that article was a priority when Rodgers took over but apparently hasn't happened only because Man City have a lot of money and may offer a huge amount of it for him.

[JohnDoe]

Just keep Agger ffs. We can't have this lingering on when the season is about to start.

[Doc_antonio]

Not sure if its been posted.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19250458

Daniel Agger wants to stay at Liverpool despite Man City interest

Liverpool defender Daniel Agger insists he wants to stay at Anfield but says the decision may not be up to him.

Manchester City have had two enquiries about the 27-year-old rejected.

But new Reds manager Brendan Rodgers conceded they may be forced to sell Agger if City match their valuation.

"I'd rather stay," Agger told Danish newspaper Politiken. "I can't imagine playing for any other club in England but you never know if the club think it's better to sell."

City have indicated they would be willing to bid about £18m for the Denmark international although Adam Johnson could yet be offered on loan as a makeweight in any potential deal.

Agger has entered the final two years of his contract and talks on a new deal have stalled but he insisted: "I am fine with my situation, the club will have to find out what they want to do.

"I've heard nothing from them. I'd rather stay but that decision is not up to me at the moment.

"Liverpool can do a deal even though I have two years on my contract, but I haven't changed my mind on the subject.

"Sometimes you can end up in a position where it's not your decision.

"I don't want to be somewhere I am not wanted but I would prefer if they want me to stay. That is my priority."

[the rev leeroy brown]

I think the quote by Stevie G on "It is upto the owners regarding Agger" was the reason why many people are having this paranoia regarding Agger being forced out by the owners. You have to admit, that was really an odd quote by our captain.

That quote from Stevie G is having far too much read into it. Seems to me he just meant that Agger isn't looking to leave, so a decision on whether he should be sold is purely down to finances. .

The quote by steveie g has been well and truly misunderstood by many on here. Its not a case of the owners deciding he can stay or that he must go. I read that as stevie indicating its up to the owners whether or not they buckle to aggers's agents apparent demand for a ridiculous wage increase at a time where we are trying to undo the damage caused by previous regimes horrendous contract offers. "It's up to the owners" is simply a case of "it's up to the owners to agree a contract with him." If we cant then with 2 years left on his deal of course it makes more sense to get a large amount in for him now - regardless of the fantasy football managers feelings on here.

[Norbs]

What's his wage demands?

[Norbs]

Oh, and just in, now I know Bascombe isn't the messiah, but he's definitely as credible as a random muppet or two on twitter...

'We're not inviting offers' is just a phrase used to encourage the buyer to up their bid. 'Not for sale' would be the phrase we *should* be using in order to get the most $$ for him A press release saying something on the lines of 'Daniel is integral to our future plans and we wish City would stop wasting their time' would be more appropriate than the 'we don't want to sell him but we do really we just haven't been offered enough yet' rubbish.

Having said that, I do understand the business element of football and there's a huge amount of posturing in order to get the best deal for your players. If they want to cash in on Agger then that's fine, hopefully Brendan knows what he wants to do, but we're just not playing the game very well IMO. I think the discussions on here are clouded when it comes to whether fans think he's going to be sold or whether they think he should be sold.