SOS Planning Rafa tribute for Wolves game

[Redspin]

This criteria would have ruled Shanks, Paisley & Fagan

The only team that provided consistant attacking exciting football (that also led to success) was Dalglish's 87-89 side

I disagree. The all-conquering 1978-79 title-winning team under Paisley that scored lots of goals (85 I think), conceded very few - 16 in 42 games (a record under that format), that also set goal difference and points total records under the 2-points for a win system, winning 30, drawing 8 and losing only 4, was just brilliant and a joy to watch. I really don't know why that team's records seem to be completely overlooked. The team went on to win the league the following season too that led to our successful European Cup win the season after that

There must be a lot of people on here too young to remember it, but I was fortunate enough to have been around long enough to see our great sides over the decades either side of it and it's my favourite Liverpool team of all time

[Cormack74]

SOS is so tiny that it would be incapable of arranging anything involving many thousands of people

Probably true.

I'm not especially up with SOS unless Merlboo's posting info, but the fella who was on the radio made out like he was an insider saying stuff like he had it on good authority that Reina would leave the club if Roy didn't.

Would be entirely plausible (obviously) if Reina hadn't pledged his future to the club on the same day.

Didn't do much for the credibility of someone supposedly organising something substantial.

[Neil Young]

Woah, pretty glad to have missed all this in the last couple of hours.

I disagree mate, i don't for one minute think i have moral superiority, i just can't believe that fans think they have the right to choose their manager. As mentioned earlier, this is along the lines of things you have seen at Newcastle over the years.

I can't for the life of me see what the big attraction is with getting a failed manager back to Anfield. He wasn't upto it first time around and IF he did come back you can kiss goodbye to the League, he has always put the European cup before the league. He is a foreign manager and the league means **** all to him. If you doubt me, look at the sacrifices he made over the years when an important European game came up.

As bertie points out, Newcastle fans also go on about their heritage of attacking football, like it's more important than winning. That's not the Liverpool I remember from the sixties and especially the seventies and most of the eighties. Other fans used to hate us when Keegan scored the only goal of the game in the last ten minutes week after week. To me, being a Liverpool supporter isn't about being entertained by pretty football or blood and guts effort, it's about finding the best way to win and then doing just that and the fans help by never giving up.

Sure, supporting the manager and the team against outsiders has always been part of what LFC has been about. But it's also been about success, humility in victory and graciousness in defeat, among many other things.

So what do you do about 'The Liverpool Way' when these things are in contradiction? When you want to be able to shout for the team but hate the terrible, un-Liverpool-like football being played? When you want to support the manager because 'it's the Liverpool Way' yet he comes out with one embarrassing self-justification after another. When you want sing "You'll Never Walk Alone" but realise that means you're singing for Christian Poulsen in a red shirt. Christian Poulsen!

What happens to the Liverpool Way then? Where are the traditions of Shankly, that first is first and second is nothing when you're in the bottom half halfway through the season, knocked out of the League Cup by the formidable Northampton Town? This isn't the Liverpool Way I've known for far too many decades to count.

The other thing about the Liverpool Way is we stick together, at least over football, so to use it as a totem to slate other fans for not being die-hard enough as a fan or educated enough about the club or experienced enough in life is exactly the opposite of the Liverpool Way. Now that's irony.

C'mon mate admit it... You're a Geordie having a good laugh aren't ya?!?? "ooh I luv mee atttackkking football mee. Couldn't gev a mooonkeys weddar we win or not"

[Tatterdemalion]

Agree with Neil. That's what I remember. For the record I'd rather SoS ****ed off. We don't need cliques.

[Rudo]

This SOS gang make my skin crawl, are they somehow more important and more diehard than non "SOS" Liverpool fans or what's the deal?

****ing Cringeworthy.

[Kenneth]

I'm really not in favour of this 'SOS idea'. Not just because I don't favour Rafa, but mainly because it mixes the messages. I would be made up with the crowd calling for Roy's head. That is the biggest problem we have and should be the focus. Adding Rafa into the mix brings all sorts of baggage. It makes it easier for nesv to disregard. If nesv have no intention of employing Rafa (which I suspect) then the protest is wasted and Hodgson's position in the eyes of the owners in unchanged. What a ****ing waste of time that would be.

An SOS campaign to call for Roy to go would get my full support. Fans can then lobby for whoever they want as a replacement once the main job is done; getting rid of Roy Hodgson.

Then again, expecting SOS to do the sensible thing is too much to ask.

Does this have no validity at all?

[little dave hedgehog]

maybe you should question yourself louder.

[Lecter]

I disagree. The all-conquering 1978-79 title-winning team under Paisley that scored lots of goals (85 I think), conceded very few - 16 in 42 games (a record under that format), that also set goal difference and points total records under the 2-points for a win system, winning 30, drawing 8 and losing only 4, was just brilliant and a joy to watch. I really don't know why that team's records seem to be completely overlooked. The team went on to win the league the following season too that led to our successful European Cup win the season after that

There must be a lot of people on here too young to remember it, but I was fortunate enough to have been around long enough to see our great sides over the decades either side of it and it's my favourite Liverpool team of all time

i had a season ticket that season and I can tell you we were not an attacking exciting side

We could be on occasion but more than anything we were a crushing machine

Best side I've ever seen at Anfield but not the most attractive or attacking team

[destinydude]

Does this have no validity at all?

It does. Hiring Rafa again would be madness.

[Will]

Well posibly, but who out their is avalable? Mourinho? NO CHANCE NOT IN A MILLION YEARS! Why noT take a punt on Villa Boas we did on Roy Hodgson! Maybe we will end up with fat Sam (god help us!)

[destinydude]

Villa Boas and Roy Hodgson are poles apart. Poles.

[Patricks_Berger]

I'm sorry to keep this argument going but how, HOW, can anyone judge Benitez as a failure? In 5 years he won the Champions Zlesgue, got to another final, won the Super Cup, the FA Cup and got us se the lreague as someone has for 20 years whiskt having to deal with two sets of useless owners.thean is a legend and he loves Liverpool and he gets The Liverpool Way on and off the pitch. Who is better to be our manager with NESV.

The only argument against is that "you should never go back". Which is exactly the kind of cliche that Roy Hodgson spouts day in day out. Get Benitez in and sort this ****ing football club out.

[destinydude]

Benitez isn't the only answer though like some of you are raving and ranting about. There's a reason you divorced your ex. It's because the baggage got too much to handle though you married her in the first place because you loved her and she gave you kids and all those nights.

Just because your current missus turned out to be a nightmare, doesn't necessarily mean your ex was and will be THE one for you. You are willing to forgive and accept all that baggage again if you take her back and live with it for the near future.

There's always another option that most of you don't wanna look at or talk about which is get someone new in with fresh ideas and the same hunger that Rafa showed when he was doing well here.

Frankly though, Rafa has lost it a bit. He looks mentally knackered and as his agent said yesterday, it's time for him to take a bit of a break than rush back into things.

Even Maureen took a break for a while when he lost his mojo(8-9 months) and came back strong and fresh.

The Chelsea fans did crib all the while about wanting Maureen back but Roman had the sense to take a new approach and went for Scolari which backfired like Roy for us now but he did the sensible thing by sticking to his guns by getting in Ancelotti(some one new and other than Maureen) who got them success with style.

[Suarez]

Absolutely classless and something I thought our fans were better than.

It depends on what the agenda is. I see it as the fans showing support to rafa at the first opportunity after he was sacked. Nothing wrong with that at all.

[Bulld0g]

Ahhh i see i've rattled a few cages, You's dont like it when someone isn't patting Rafa on the back and saying he was taking us in the right direction. He wasn't a failure ? so therefore he was a success or he was average. Which was it ?

Either way, i'm glad he moved on when he did. The sooner Hodgson moves on the better, they are too similar as in, they don't set out to win games but not to lose them.