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Meh, we're still short of having an effective football team.
Right back needed, centre back needed, left back needed, centre midfielder needed, winger needed, striker needed(could argue 2)
That's not being ott, sky sports news or talksport esque. It's fact
I just don't agree with all of that, I'm sorry. We don't need a right-back, got Kelly who so reminds me of Finnan, we have Johnson who's fantastic, we just need to play to his strengths and have a manager who understands that how to manage him. The same goes for centre of defence. Agger is a fantastic, beautiful-football-playing centre-back who was touted and has still been touted as one of the best in the modern game, the silkiness of his game is there for all to see, and Kenny will get the best out of him. He played with Hansen/Lawro, so he'll know a thing or two to do. We've still got Carra coming back from injury, regardless of the growing unpopularity towards him. We've got Soto who's not as **** as made out to be. Also we have Skrtel, who was part of a rock-solid defense for long.
I agree on the left side of the park. Don't agree about two strikers, one possibly. With Kenny and - allegedly Rushie - now though, **** me are they going to teach the players we have a thing or two about scoring and getting into positions and making runs, make no doubt about it.
And Torres is world-class, he became world-class under Rafa and he strives - as he mentioned in countless interviews - on always wanting to improve. He doesn't believe in any of the hype about him and he wants to always improve, Rafa gave him that option because he was so ****ing anal about every little mistake anyone can make - just like he told Cisse after winning the Champions League literally still on the pitch 'You made these mistakes'.
This is why Torres had let his head down, he went from being coached to perfection and daily improvements to nothing, regression. N'Gog's been doing well, I still believe we can do with another striker.
But the change of management will work wonders, so much of football is in the mind and in the heart, if you get a boss you can believe in, it's half the work. We've got that now, stop sulking, we're going to be ****ing amazing.
I just don't agree with all of that, I'm sorry. We don't need a right-back, got Kelly who so reminds me of Finnan, we have Johnson who's fantastic, we just need to play to his strengths and have a manager who understands that how to manage him. The same goes for centre of defence. Agger is a fantastic, beautiful-football-playing centre-back who was touted and has still been touted as one of the best in the modern game, the silkiness of his game is there for all to see, and Kenny will get the best out of him. He played with Hansen/Lawro, so he'll know a thing or two to do. We've still got Carra coming back from injury, regardless of the growing unpopularity towards him. We've got Soto who's not as **** as made out to be. Also we have Skrtel, who was part of a rock-solid defense for long.
I agree on the left side of the park. Don't agree about two strikers, one possibly. With Kenny and - allegedly Rushie - now though, **** me are they going to teach the players we have a thing or two about scoring and getting into positions and making runs, make no doubt about it.
And Torres is world-class, he became world-class under Rafa and he strives - as he mentioned in countless interviews - on always wanting to improve. He doesn't believe in any of the hype about him and he wants to always improve, Rafa gave him that option because he was so ****ing anal about every little mistake anyone can make - just like he told Cisse after winning the Champions League literally still on the pitch 'You made these mistakes'.
This is why Torres had let his head down, he went from being coached to perfection and daily improvements to nothing, regression. N'Gog's been doing well, I still believe we can do with another striker.
But the change of management will work wonders, so much of football is in the mind and in the heart, if you get a boss you can believe in, it's half the work. We've got that now, stop sulking, we're going to be ****ing amazing.
I just don't agree with all of that, I'm sorry. We don't need a right-back, got Kelly who so reminds me of Finnan, we have Johnson who's fantastic, we just need to play to his strengths and have a manager who understands that how to manage him. The same goes for centre of defence. Agger is a fantastic, beautiful-football-playing centre-back who was touted and has still been touted as one of the best in the modern game, the silkiness of his game is there for all to see, and Kenny will get the best out of him. He played with Hansen/Lawro, so he'll know a thing or two to do. We've still got Carra coming back from injury, regardless of the growing unpopularity towards him. We've got Soto who's not as **** as made out to be. Also we have Skrtel, who was part of a rock-solid defense for long.
I agree on the left side of the park. Don't agree about two strikers, one possibly. With Kenny and - allegedly Rushie - now though, **** me are they going to teach the players we have a thing or two about scoring and getting into positions and making runs, make no doubt about it.
And Torres is world-class, he became world-class under Rafa and he strives - as he mentioned in countless interviews - on always wanting to improve. He doesn't believe in any of the hype about him and he wants to always improve, Rafa gave him that option because he was so ****ing anal about every little mistake anyone can make - just like he told Cisse after winning the Champions League literally still on the pitch 'You made these mistakes'.
This is why Torres had let his head down, he went from being coached to perfection and daily improvements to nothing, regression. N'Gog's been doing well, I still believe we can do with another striker.
But the change of management will work wonders, so much of football is in the mind and in the heart, if you get a boss you can believe in, it's half the work. We've got that now, stop sulking, we're going to be ****ing amazing.
LOL, lets break it all down here chap, and i'm referring to changes for NEXT SEASON:
Johnson - he's ****ing ****!! - clumsy, indecisive, positional sense is ridiculously bad. good forward? whoopy doo... and what does the great going forward Glen Johnson produce in terms of assists and goals? sweet **** all my friend. Even if he did assist regularly and score regularly, he'd still be a disaster because he cannot defend. Kelly's a cracking prospect and should be given a chance in the upcoming games but he's still a youngster and needs time. Johnson has to be moved on this summer and a new right back brought in. I personally like Zabaleta at City, he's in and out of their side so who knows he could be after 1st team football elsewhere. He's versatile too - play lb and in centre mid.
Agger - yeah when he plays he's generally a good player - good reader of the game, agile and super on the ball. prob gets shrugged off the ball a bit too easy for my liking if i'm being honest. the big problem with Agger has always been and always be his injury record/lack of fitness. can we rely on him for a whole season? i think not.
Carra - complete legend and i mean legend but when next season kicks off he'll be nearing the 34 mark - that's not to say he's finished but to expect him to play week in, week out is too much of an ask at that age.
Skrtel - massive fan of Skrtel, started the season in top form but has had a few jittery games since. In fairness when he looks to the right and sees Glen Johnson and then to the left and sees Paul ****ing Konchesky, that's enough to make any team-mate nervous. With a bit of stability around him i'd back to the big man to come good again. Without doubt our most complete defender on his day.
In the midfield, Gerrard's 31 by the time next season kicks off, obv still another few years at the top of his game but there comes a point when you have to look to the future. Another top class centre midfield player is required, that's obviously easier said that done but it's up to the scouting department/management to find the right players.
Winger is desperately needed, that goes without saying. Maxi, Cole and Kuyt - there's **** all pace or direct play amongst them. I rate all 3 to an extent but we still still need a proper out and out winger. Left winger if possible.
Up front - we got Torres and **** all else really. N'gog's still learning his trade and isn't ready to start matches for us regularly. He's good for the odd goal but horrible to watch at times. He's worth keeping tho.
I don't know why you're preaching to me about Torres's ability as the man can do **** all wrong in my book. ****ing world class is right. The most exciting Liverpool i've ever witnessed along with Michael Owen and Steven Gerrard.
Just such a shame he's leaving in the summer.
It means we need to replace him with at least two strikers, with N'gog knocking about as well. That's no easy task to say the least!
I just don't agree with all of that, I'm sorry. We don't need a right-back, got Kelly who so reminds me of Finnan, we have Johnson who's fantastic, we just need to play to his strengths and have a manager who understands that how to manage him. The same goes for centre of defence. Agger is a fantastic, beautiful-football-playing centre-back who was touted and has still been touted as one of the best in the modern game, the silkiness of his game is there for all to see, and Kenny will get the best out of him. He played with Hansen/Lawro, so he'll know a thing or two to do. We've still got Carra coming back from injury, regardless of the growing unpopularity towards him. We've got Soto who's not as **** as made out to be. Also we have Skrtel, who was part of a rock-solid defense for long.
I agree on the left side of the park. Don't agree about two strikers, one possibly. With Kenny and - allegedly Rushie - now though, **** me are they going to teach the players we have a thing or two about scoring and getting into positions and making runs, make no doubt about it.
And Torres is world-class, he became world-class under Rafa and he strives - as he mentioned in countless interviews - on always wanting to improve. He doesn't believe in any of the hype about him and he wants to always improve, Rafa gave him that option because he was so ****ing anal about every little mistake anyone can make - just like he told Cisse after winning the Champions League literally still on the pitch 'You made these mistakes'.
This is why Torres had let his head down, he went from being coached to perfection and daily improvements to nothing, regression. N'Gog's been doing well, I still believe we can do with another striker.
But the change of management will work wonders, so much of football is in the mind and in the heart, if you get a boss you can believe in, it's half the work. We've got that now, stop sulking, we're going to be ****ing amazing.
Those games called off could really be a blessing in disguise, new man in who is "Kenny". Instantly commands respect, new tactics,desire and hopefully some new faces (which we desperately need)
Interesting times ahead, won't be judging anything on tomorrows game. Delighted the king is here, what a relief.
P.S. Skrtel is average clumsy/rash, Carra legs are gone, bit part role IMO, Johnson appalling defender, Agger/Aurelio excellent when fit, but thats not often. We need more defensive options for sure.
. I personally like Zabaleta at City, he's in and out of their side so who knows he could be after 1st team football elsewhere. He's versatile too - play lb and in centre mid.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
I just don't agree with all of that, I'm sorry. We don't need a right-back, got Kelly who so reminds me of Finnan, we have Johnson who's fantastic, we just need to play to his strengths and have a manager who understands that how to manage him. The same goes for centre of defence. Agger is a fantastic, beautiful-football-playing centre-back who was touted and has still been touted as one of the best in the modern game, the silkiness of his game is there for all to see, and Kenny will get the best out of him. He played with Hansen/Lawro, so he'll know a thing or two to do. We've still got Carra coming back from injury, regardless of the growing unpopularity towards him. We've got Soto who's not as **** as made out to be. Also we have Skrtel, who was part of a rock-solid defense for long.
I agree on the left side of the park. Don't agree about two strikers, one possibly. With Kenny and - allegedly Rushie - now though, **** me are they going to teach the players we have a thing or two about scoring and getting into positions and making runs, make no doubt about it.
And Torres is world-class, he became world-class under Rafa and he strives - as he mentioned in countless interviews - on always wanting to improve. He doesn't believe in any of the hype about him and he wants to always improve, Rafa gave him that option because he was so ****ing anal about every little mistake anyone can make - just like he told Cisse after winning the Champions League literally still on the pitch 'You made these mistakes'.
This is why Torres had let his head down, he went from being coached to perfection and daily improvements to nothing, regression. N'Gog's been doing well, I still believe we can do with another striker.
But the change of management will work wonders, so much of football is in the mind and in the heart, if you get a boss you can believe in, it's half the work. We've got that now, stop sulking, we're going to be ****ing amazing.
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