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    #76
    Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
    Talk of a 22 player turnover this summer in Sundays Telegraph.

    When you consider how many are on loan and will not be coming back, it's not as radical as it sounds, especially if some of those coming and going are youth players.
    also if you think that some going will make room for further players to come in after the summer.

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      #77
      Well I look at the squad and whilst many are better than what we saw at the start of the season, there are still too many tbh, who really aren't capable of pushing Liverpool forwards.
      Forwards.......

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        #78
        Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
        Well I look at the squad and whilst many are better than what we saw at the start of the season, there are still too many tbh, who really aren't capable of pushing Liverpool forwards.

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          #79
          I've looked at how I would trim our squad if I was Comolli/Dalglish:

          This is our current squad:
          Keepers:
          Reina
          Jones - SELL
          Gulacsi

          Right backs:
          Johnson
          Darby - SELL
          Kelly
          Flanagan
          Degen - SELL

          Left Backs:
          Konchesky - SELL
          Aurelio - SELL
          Robinson
          Insua

          Center backs:
          Agger
          Kyrgiakos - SELL
          Wilson – LOAN TO EPL TEAM
          Carragher
          Skrtel
          Ayala
          Wisdom – NOT READY IMO

          DM:
          Spearing
          Poulsen - SELL
          Coady
          Lucas

          CM:
          Meireles
          Gerrard
          Shelvey
          Irwin - SELL
          Aquilani

          AM:
          Cole
          Pacheco
          Jovanovic - SELL
          Maxi
          Suso – NOT READY IMO
          Sterling – NOT READY IMO
          Ince – NOT READY IMO
          El Zhar - SELL

          Forwards:
          Suarez
          Carrol
          Kuyt
          Ngog - SELL
          Eccleston – NOT READY IMO

          This would be our new squad:
          Keepers:
          Reina
          (Back up keeper)
          Gulacsi

          Right backs:
          Johnson
          Kelly
          Flanagan

          Left Backs:
          First Choice
          Insua
          Robinson

          Center backs:
          First Choice
          Agger
          Carragher
          Skrtel
          Ayala

          DM:
          First Choice
          Lucas
          Spearing
          Coady

          CM:
          Gerrard
          Meireles
          Aquilani
          Shelvey

          AM:
          First Choice Winger
          Cole
          Maxi
          Pacheco

          Forwards:
          Suarez
          Carrol
          Kuyt

          Shopping List:
          Back up keeper
          First Choice Center back
          First Choice Left back
          First Choice Defensive Midfielder
          First Choice Winger

          TBH that would be VERY doable IMO...
          An experienced keeper on a free and say 1 Sakho, 1 Enrique, 1 M'Vila, 1 Sanchez (or Young if we go for the cheap option - or Aguero if we want a more narrow approach)

          IMO that team would be as good as any in the EPL!

          --------------------Reina---------------------
          Johnson----Carra-----------Sakho------Enrique
          -------------------M'Vila----------------------
          -----------Gerrard--------Meireles-------------
          -------Suarez--------------------Young-------
          -------------------Carroll---------------------

          Bench:
          New keeper
          Kelly
          Agger/Skrtel
          Lucas
          Aquilani
          Cole
          Kuyt

          Powerful squad with loads of possibilities in it! How much do ya reckon we would get for the deadwood and what would it cost to assemble the team above? A NETT of £50m?
          Last edited by DKdan; 27-04-11, 08:37 AM.

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            #80
            Joe Cole simply has to go as well. You can't have a squad player on 90k a week and he's clearly not a first teamer anymore. I feel a bit lik a broken record saying this, but people keep insisting we keep him.

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              #81
              Originally posted by banditos View Post
              Joe Cole simply has to go as well. You can't have a squad player on 90k a week and he's clearly not a first teamer anymore. I feel a bit lik a broken record saying this, but people keep insisting we keep him.


              should be gone, can't afford expensive passangers which he is and can't see it changing going forwards.

              I still think we could get £5M for him from someone like West Ham providing of course they stay up.

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                #82
                Originally posted by DKdan View Post
                IMO that team would be as good as any in the EPL!

                --------------------Reina---------------------
                Johnson----Carra-----------Sakho------Enrique
                -------------------M'Vila----------------------
                -----------Gerrard--------Meireles-------------
                -------Suarez--------------------Young-------
                -------------------Carroll---------------------

                Bench:
                New keeper
                Kelly
                Agger/Skrtel
                Lucas
                Aquilani
                Cole
                Kuyt

                Powerful squad with loads of possibilities in it! How much do ya reckon we would get for the deadwood and what would it cost to assemble the team above? A NETT of £50m?

                --------------------Reina---------------------
                Kelly----Carra-----------Agger------Johnston
                -------------------Lucas----------------------
                -----------Gerrard--------Meireles-------------
                -------Kuyt--------------------Maxi-------
                -------------------Suarez---------------------

                I think that team from our current crop would possibly beat yours.
                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by banditos View Post
                  Joe Cole simply has to go as well. You can't have a squad player on 90k a week and he's clearly not a first teamer anymore. I feel a bit lik a broken record saying this, but people keep insisting we keep him.


                  The problem I see is no-one being willing to pay his wages, lets face it his only chance of a move to a big club is if Newcastle come in for him

                  The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by rcasemore View Post


                    should be gone, can't afford expensive passangers which he is and can't see it changing going forwards.

                    I still think we could get £5M for him from someone like West Ham providing of course they stay up.
                    I can see us having to take a hit on the fee just because most other clubs will be unwilling to pay his wages
                    The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by DKdan View Post
                      IMO that team would be as good as any in the EPL!

                      --------------------Reina---------------------
                      Johnson----Carra-----------Sakho------Enrique
                      -------------------M'Vila----------------------
                      -----------Gerrard--------Meireles-------------
                      -------Suarez--------------------Young-------
                      -------------------Carroll---------------------
                      Originally posted by RedReet View Post
                      --------------------Reina---------------------
                      Kelly----Carra-----------Agger------Johnston
                      -------------------Lucas----------------------
                      -----------Gerrard--------Meireles-------------
                      -------Kuyt--------------------Maxi-------
                      -------------------Suarez---------------------

                      I think that team from our current crop would possibly beat yours.
                      Personally we need top notch CB and as of next season imo Carra should be on the bench.

                      Also I would always play Aqua Man instead of Raul if Aquilani comes back. Much better and more complete player.

                      P.S. Hey RedReet, what happened to Carroll in your line up? Surely he should be the starter
                      Last edited by Mostar; 27-04-11, 12:55 PM.
                      Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                        Personally we need top notch CB and as of next season imo Carra should be on the bench.

                        Also I would always play Aqua Man instead of Raul if Aquilani comes back. Much better and more complete player.

                        P.S. Hey RedReet, what happened to Carroll in your line up? Surely he should be the starter
                        **** me, just lost my whole reply by hitting back.

                        To be honest, I didn’t even consider Carroll when picking my team. I suppose a case could be made for him replacing Meireles, but at the minute I don’t think we have the players to compliment Carroll so are a better team without him.

                        I had a lot more to say, but couldn't be arsed writing it again, but hope that at least answers your question.
                        If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by RedReet View Post
                          **** me, just lost my whole reply by hitting back.

                          To be honest, I didn’t even consider Carroll when picking my team. I suppose a case could be made for him replacing Meireles, but at the minute I don’t think we have the players to compliment Carroll so are a better team without him.

                          I had a lot more to say, but couldn't be arsed writing it again, but hope that at least answers your question.
                          I kind of agree with you there in regards Carroll, I think we'll hopefullly start to see the best of him next season once we've recruited players that compliment his assets best also I don't really see the need in changing a team that won 5-0 the last time out.

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                            #88
                            I love how we are saying chelsea spent 50 mil on torres and its stupid that chelsea fans think they need to spend more to make him good. then we do exactly the same thing with carroll
                            96 Never Forgotten

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                              #89
                              We are not relying on Carroll to make us tick though, we can still function well and he can still contribute in the current set-up. We are still generally looking at the same players we needed before Carroll signed (LB, winger, creative midfielder) and once we get them then we should see more from the team as a whole and Carroll personally.

                              Chelsea also have good enough players to compliment Torres at the minute, but they are used to their CF playing in a certain way that Torres isn’t capable of. I’m pretty sure Chelsea could easily find a system that suits Torres and the rest of their squad, but because of the age of a lot of their players they need to reinvest.

                              Basically I disagree with both points, neither team needs to spend heavily to make their new players ‘good’, but both teams will spend and Torres and Carroll should benefit more than most from the new additions.
                              If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Exiled_red View Post
                                I can see us having to take a hit on the fee just because most other clubs will be unwilling to pay his wages
                                Hit on what fee I thought he was free?

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