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  • Fierce
    I'm only the bassist
    • Jul 2006
    • 15834

    #23101
    Originally posted by ChesterDave
    From what I have seen we should expect a decision by 9pm UK time today
    I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
    There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet

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    • Exiled_red
      Paisley
      • Nov 2007
      • 55256

      #23102
      My guess would be that a ban will be less than the 10 games the FA gave him, as FIFA punishments seem to be more lenient for most things than those handed out by the FA. The whole 2 years ban from all forms of football seems crazy to me. IMO he will miss the rest of the world cup and a few other international games. The media and opposition fans here will go nuts that the ban is too soft, while Uruguay will insist that he/they are being unfairly treated.

      Regarding the incident and Suarez himself I think that it's fairly clear that he did try to bite him. The extent to which Suarez did bite him is difficult to ascertain. Suarez certainly has some issues that need to be dealt with. This lack of control is certainly affecting his career, the number of games he has missed through bans is significant and this is two World Cups that he has found himself banned from. He is a supremely talented player who loves playing for his country but it is unlikely that a Suarez at his peak will get to light up a world cup, and with him suspended the chances of Uruguay progressing are significantly reduced.

      Regarding Suarez and LFC, I don't have a problem with him playing for us again, I don't understand any LFC fans saying get rid. What we need to do is control his temper which I assume we had been doing this season while he was with us. Of course the media here have blown this up, he was the pantomime villain here before this, everything he does get highlighted and criticised more than anyone else.

      Hopefully the ban will keep him fresh for us for the new season and he will come back hungry for success
      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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      • James P
        This week, I have been mostly holding on too long
        • Aug 2007
        • 1693

        #23103
        Originally posted by captainfog
        No I can't because the two are completely different things. But OK, lets pretend they are similar. If I punched someone and got arrested whilst on holiday in Spain I would not expect my employer to be told and if they were I wouldn't expect my employer to care.
        As an employer of 75 people I can tell you that they would very much care.

        Originally posted by captainfog
        But lets get back to what really happened. Suarez committed a foul that will be punished with a ban. Big Deal.
        A mistimed tackle is a foul. Biting someone for no apparent reason when the ball is nowhere near you is essentially assault. If Chiellini had bitten Suarez I'd imagine you'd be howling for justice right now.

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        • baitman
          Dad's Cabs
          • Sep 2011
          • 27735

          #23104
          Originally posted by Yozza
          Personally I hope the Uruguayans try every trick in the book to lessen the sentence on our lad - what use is the corrupt FIFA anyway?!

          **** the english media

          **** the FA

          Mad Luis
          surely its not a question of will they take a bung, more a question of how much
          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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          • dom9
            Ant Pisser
            • Aug 2006
            • 69011

            #23105
            Originally posted by James P
            As an employer of 75 people I can tell you that they would very much care.
            Out of interest, why? And what would you do about it if somebody was convicted of assault on holiday?
            Oh I don't know.

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            • Exiled_red
              Paisley
              • Nov 2007
              • 55256

              #23106
              Originally posted by baitman
              surely its not a question of will they take a bung, more a question of how much
              The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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              • Shaggy
                Unidentified Rascal
                • Jul 2006
                • 135533

                #23107
                Saw a Uruguayan journo on Twitter saying the Uruguayan Football Federation have employed some orthodontic forensics to prove an 'overbite' rather than a bite. i.e. Suarez went to nut him and his protruding teeth inadvertently sank into Chiellini's shoulder
                Thanks very much for being

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                • James P
                  This week, I have been mostly holding on too long
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1693

                  #23108
                  I'm rather confused by some of the reactions on here for two reasons.

                  Firstly, if Suarez (or any other Liverpool player) was the victim of a bite rather than the perpetrator, I'd bet that most if not all of you would be outraged and demanding serious sanctions. There's sticking up for your players, and there's being blindly partisan to the extent that you end up looking ridiculous. If he is found guilty by the FIFA panel, then will you accept the decision, or continue to rail against it?

                  Secondly, the widely used argument about a bite being less serious than a deliberate foul, elbow, headbutt, eye gouge, punch or being shot in the face is missing the point entirely. This isn't a totting up system likes points on a driving licence. All of those kinds of actions are unacceptable anywhere, including on a football pitch, and debating which is more or less unacceptable is entirely without merit. The "I'd rather be bitten than elbowed" argument is daft. Given the choice I'd rather not suffer any of those, and anyone dishing out any of that behaviour deserves to be punished.

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                  • ChesterDave
                    Paisley
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 32224

                    #23109
                    hahahahahaha

                    These pundits are such two faced cunts. Utterly transparent.

                    Making excuses for Sahko's deliberate elbow. It was as deliberate and more conclusive than Suarez!
                    Football without Origi is nothing

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                    • James P
                      This week, I have been mostly holding on too long
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 1693

                      #23110
                      Originally posted by dom9
                      Out of interest, why? And what would you do about it if somebody was convicted of assault on holiday?
                      In our case, our regulatory body requires disclosure of any criminal convictions. It doesn't mean that you'll be kicked out, but failure to disclose could.

                      Most employers these days will ask about criminal convictions, and in some cases having one can make a particular role impossible.

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                      • Leyton388
                        aka liverpooltj
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 26044

                        #23111
                        It was quite clear that the lad tried to nut Sahko in the elbow FFS.

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                        • kev776
                          Paisley
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 12035

                          #23112
                          Originally posted by James P
                          In our case, our regulatory body requires disclosure of any criminal convictions. It doesn't mean that you'll be kicked out, but failure to disclose could.
                          This is also the same in my Company, they would also provide assistance with lawyers, bribes etc and they have been known to use contacts at very high level to get employees out of sticky situations.
                          Those that hid Anne Frank were breaking the law.
                          Those that killed her, were following the law.

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                          • Leyton388
                            aka liverpooltj
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 26044

                            #23113
                            Dear Alan

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                            • Roboklopp
                              Cuboid Humanoid
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 30548

                              #23114
                              But no one is arguing he shouldn't be punished James - just that it should be proportional to the punishment for those other transgressions. Which clearly the reactions thus far aren't.
                              3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                              • BrooklynRed
                                Dalglish
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 2504

                                #23115
                                Originally posted by James P

                                Secondly, the widely used argument about a bite being less serious than a deliberate foul, elbow, headbutt, eye gouge, punch or being shot in the face is missing the point entirely. This isn't a totting up system likes points on a driving licence. All of those kinds of actions are unacceptable anywhere, including on a football pitch, and debating which is more or less unacceptable is entirely without merit. The "I'd rather be bitten than elbowed" argument is daft. Given the choice I'd rather not suffer any of those, and anyone dishing out any of that behaviour deserves to be punished.
                                I think the level of outrage over an elbow or a hard, intentional foul is about 1,000,000 times less than the hysterics about Suarez biting. So, yes, none of them are good, but one is being treated as "cannibalism" and while the rest is "what happens when you play football". So, I agree; FIFA should punish him and it should be an international ban for violent conduct on par with what he's done. The rest feels like absolute hysteria or intellectually dishonest journalists who love other English clubs winding everyone up to sell papers and feign outrage when, had THEIR own players done something egregious, they would be making their own excuses. I'm not making excuses for him. If we sell him, fine-- get proper value and invest it in the team. But the hysteria is laughable.
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