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  • Tee
    El Pistolero
    • Jul 2006
    • 35788

    #3376
    Originally posted by wiw
    Don't get me wrong you can't knock his numbers..not entirely sure what my point was to be honest Perhaps he just needs some quicker thinkers in and around him, which is why i'm frothing at the gash thinking about Allen pushed further up the pitch
    Cannot disagree with that. Could get a bit manic though! Don't think there can be any quicker thinkers than him.
    "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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    • G
      Paisley
      • Aug 2006
      • 16686

      #3377
      Originally posted by Pablo1981
      You manipulated the stats to suit your agenda. When have you ever heard stats about the games players haven't scored in?

      The fact is he's got 6 goals in 9 games (should be 7), and that's a brilliant start as far as I'm concerned.
      I have an agenda now, okay.

      You could be accused of having one too.

      I have a different point of view, that's all. It's allowed.

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      • Pablo
        Anti-Antipodeanite
        • May 2007
        • 25808

        #3378
        Originally posted by G
        I have an agenda now, okay.

        You could be accused of having one too.

        I have a different point of view, that's all. It's allowed.
        It was just a bizarre stat to bring up really. I've never once heard anyone talk about strikers in terms of how many games they've not scored in. It's backwards logic

        It'd only really apply if he'd bagged a double hattrick against Norwich or something which had completely warped the stats. Otherwise it's a pointless statistic.

        As others have mentioned he might score goals in patches, but sometimes he needs to score more than once in a match for us to win the game anyway.

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        • destinydude
          Dalglish
          • Dec 2009
          • 4274

          #3379
          This is what is wrong with Suarez

          In the top 3 despite having a horrible conversion ratio and as a result minutes per goal ratio

          Patience when teased often, transforms into rage

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          • Pablo
            Anti-Antipodeanite
            • May 2007
            • 25808

            #3380
            Dzeko's got a goal every 55 minutes so far this season

            I really wanted us to have a punt at him on loan late in the window, but I guess it was always a non-starter

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            • Lents
              Evans
              • Jan 2012
              • 208

              #3381
              Originally posted by G
              Dividing goals scored by games played doesn't give an accurate picture of a strikers goalscoring habits does it

              Would we rather one who scores a goal a game or thereabouts or one who scores in spells and then none at all for a while. I'd rather both.

              I'll say it again for you all that seem to be missing the point. He's great but he needs help, he's not a lead the line kind of guy and we'll never win leagues relying on him alone to score goals.
              The whole ****ing world knows we need another striker, I just don't understand your bollocks about strikers that score in spells or one a game.

              Very very few forwards will finish seasons consistently scoring 1/1, and your question is pointless. Would we rather a striker who scored every single game or every few games? What sort of question is that?

              Oh, and Suarez is very capable of being the 1/1 man everyone wants, it'll help when he doesn't have to make 80% of his chances through his own brilliance too.

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              • G
                Paisley
                • Aug 2006
                • 16686

                #3382
                Originally posted by Pablo1981
                If he carries on at this ratio (6 goals in 9 games), he will end up with approximately 25 Premier League goals this season. I'd say that's more than enough for him to be contributing.
                And I'd agree.

                If he does it. He should have no problems being a 25 goal a season man but he misses too many for me . We all get annoyed when he has one for those games. If he gets there I'll be well happy, he needs someone beside him doing it too though.

                Out of a front 5 including advanced midfielders he's scoring on his own and we'll do **** all if that remains the case.

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                • Scratch
                  If you fail once....
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 7885

                  #3383
                  Just to see it from G's pov, if he scored 7 hat tricks, and had a goal return of 21 in 38,would that be acceptable, even tho it would mean that in 31 games he fails to find the target?

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                  • Lents
                    Evans
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 208

                    #3384
                    Yes. Of course it would, if we won all those games.
                    If he was the only one scoring would it be acceptable? No, but then that wouldn't really be all down to Suarez.

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                    • G
                      Paisley
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 16686

                      #3385
                      Originally posted by Lents
                      The whole ****ing world knows we need another striker, I just don't understand your bollocks about strikers that score in spells or one a game.

                      Very very few forwards will finish seasons consistently scoring 1/1, and your question is pointless. Would we rather a striker who scored every single game or every few games? What sort of question is that?

                      Oh, and Suarez is very capable of being the 1/1 man everyone wants, it'll help when he doesn't have to make 80% of his chances through his own brilliance too.
                      What I mean is someone consistent, not needing a hundred chances before he takes one.

                      Do you want someone who scores a hat trick then nothing for a few games then a brace?

                      Luis is a luxury, we need the other type of forward up there with him. One who gets a sniff of a goal and slams it home.

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                      • Pablo
                        Anti-Antipodeanite
                        • May 2007
                        • 25808

                        #3386
                        Originally posted by Scratch
                        Just to see it from G's pov, if he scored 7 hat tricks, and had a goal return of 21 in 38,would that be acceptable, even tho it would mean that in 31 games he fails to find the target?
                        If he scored 7 hat-tricks in a season (probably breaking a world record in the process) I'd think he was absolutely gash and want him sold immediately. No brainer isn't it. Sell that piece of crap ASAP

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                        • baitman
                          Dad's Cabs
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 27734

                          #3387
                          Originally posted by Lents
                          Are you on glue?
                          removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                          too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                          • Assassin
                            Kloppite
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 25908

                            #3388
                            Originally posted by G
                            What I mean is someone consistent, not needing a hundred chances before he takes one.

                            Luis is a luxury, we need the other type of forward up there with him. One who gets a sniff of a goal and slams it home.
                            If we had 2 more "Luxuries" exactly like him playing up front with him and we would be unbeatable

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                            • RedReet
                              Fantasy Football Champion
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 25265

                              #3389
                              Originally posted by Scratch
                              Just to see it from G's pov, if he scored 7 hat tricks, and had a goal return of 21 in 38,would that be acceptable, even tho it would mean that in 31 games he fails to find the target?
                              But his stats sice joinging us don't suggest that, his goal ratio is well spread out, only scoring more than once in 3 matches.

                              Stupid question, plus he could also get 3 assists in the other 31 games.
                              If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                              • Lents
                                Evans
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 208

                                #3390
                                Well, let's sign Messi and Ronaldo then.

                                Failing that, there are loads of decent players out of contract next summer i'd hope we're at least attempting to speak to them in Jan either for a quick move for a low fee, or at the latest next summer on a free.

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