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  • Shaggy
    Unidentified Rascal
    • Jul 2006
    • 135533

    #7861
    Originally posted by Lecter
    Ferguson is mostly untouchable he has also never been involved in multiple incidents as severe as Suarez's have been

    The only player I can think of who is a multiple sinner to the level of Suarez is Barton and his last ban was of a similar length to that of Suarez's

    As I have said previously the ban doesnt bother me that much but the FA should lay down clear guidelines on these sort of incidents as their punishment process is too arbitrary and is open to ridicule
    Not as severe but Ferguson is on repeated misconduct charges for abusing officials.

    Barton was done for three separate offences. If Suarez had been done for three he'd be looking at a 30 game ban
    Thanks very much for being

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    • Gibbo
      Like a boss
      • Jul 2010
      • 26212

      #7862
      We should build Luis' defence, .
      The times they are a changin'.

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      • Lecter
        Nicked from elsewhere
        • Jul 2006
        • 18261

        #7863
        Originally posted by Neil Young
        They're a law unto themselves. It's really horrible.
        Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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        • Sarb
          Doomed, we're all doomed!
          • Jun 2007
          • 11302

          #7864
          Is it true you can't have proper legal representation in these FA cases? You can't turn up with that Mr Loophole solicitor for example.

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          • Pedenj
            Benitez
            • Jul 2006
            • 974

            #7865
            Originally posted by Shaggy
            Remember this? Englishman Ashley Cole acts disgracefully so a few days later they "make an example of" foreign Liverpool player Javier Mascherano.

            Then the entire Respect 'campaign' is mysteriously forgotten about.




            That was the most ridiculous thing ever. Remember it so clearly and Mascherano did nothing wrong until the red card was stupidly brandished. After that he lost his rag - which to an extent was understandable.

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            • Lecter
              Nicked from elsewhere
              • Jul 2006
              • 18261

              #7866
              Originally posted by Shaggy
              Not as severe but Ferguson is on repeated misconduct charges for abusing officials.

              Barton was done for three separate offences. If Suarez had been done for three he'd be looking at a 30 game ban
              I hate Ferguson, the Premier League and the FA will be a much better place without his sphere of influence but there is just no comparison between absuing an official post match and getting fined a book token and what Suarez has done

              Suarez was warned for the first offence, his card has been marked and they've hammered him this time

              Barton got off lightly imo but again this only goes to highlight how arbitrary the punishments are. Without clear guidelines you will have hugely inconsistent punishments
              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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              • Gibbo
                Like a boss
                • Jul 2010
                • 26212

                #7867
                I reckon you can request advice but I don't think they can be present and speak for you, no.

                Why would they? Only similar to receiving a disaplinary at work innit!
                The times they are a changin'.

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                • Sarb
                  Doomed, we're all doomed!
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 11302

                  #7868
                  Originally posted by Gibbo
                  I reckon you can request advice but I don't think they can be present and speak for you, no.

                  Why would they? Only similar to receiving a disaplinary at work innit!
                  Yeah on the one hand you're right. Never been in a disciplinary so not sure on the in's and out's. I'd compare this more to a tribunal though

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                  • Neil Young
                    Prosecco Socialist
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 62564

                    #7869
                    It's not quite the same. The FA is not Suárez's employer.
                    .
                    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                    May the Lord bless this post.

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                    • Sarb
                      Doomed, we're all doomed!
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 11302

                      #7870
                      Originally posted by Neil Young
                      It's not quite the same. The FA are not Suárez's employer.


                      Yeah. He's being punished by an outside party. At any tribunal you'd be able to take legal representation. I'm not 100% but I think the FA prohibit it. Or did I read that Evra took some hotshot with him and we turned up with some amateur

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                        Paisley
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 10150

                        #7871
                        Originally posted by Lecter
                        I hate Ferguson, the Premier League and the FA will be a much better place without his sphere of influence but there is just no comparison between absuing an official post match and getting fined a book token and what Suarez has done

                        Suarez was warned for the first offence, his card has been marked and they've hammered him this time

                        Barton got off lightly imo but again this only goes to highlight how arbitrary the punishments are. Without clear guidelines you will have hugely inconsistent punishments
                        ...hence the FA seeming to have a targeted discriminatory policy against 'media bad boys' who rub the press up the wrong way...

                        The Fickle hAnd of justice...

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                        • Lecter
                          Nicked from elsewhere
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 18261

                          #7872
                          Originally posted by Neil Young
                          It's not quite the same. The FA is not Suárez's employer.
                          The FA are in fact the government in this case

                          Which goes a long way in explaining their incompetence, inconsistency and levels of moral corruption
                          Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                          • Gibbo
                            Like a boss
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 26212

                            #7873
                            Originally posted by Neil Young
                            It's not quite the same. The FA is not Suárez's employer.
                            Ah yeah, fair point.
                            The times they are a changin'.

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                            • Philgas
                              Benitez
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 684

                              #7874
                              It puts a sour taste in my mouth that I will pay up front for a season ticket and not have him in the team for the start of the season , we must fight this ban its the fans that suffer
                              :lunch soon:

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                              • Shaggy
                                Unidentified Rascal
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 135533

                                #7875
                                Originally posted by Lecter
                                I hate Ferguson, the Premier League and the FA will be a much better place without his sphere of influence but there is just no comparison between absuing an official post match and getting fined a book token and what Suarez has done
                                I didn't say there was but you can't arbitrarily decide to start increasing bans for repeat offences just because an offence is deemed by someone as more severe than others. The principle has to remain the same, surely, regardless of the offence. You either increase punishments exponentially for repeat offences or you don't - and this FA appear to have never done so in the past.
                                Thanks very much for being

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