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  • Pablo
    Anti-Antipodeanite
    • May 2007
    • 25808

    #9571
    Originally posted by marcus50bucks
    He's only a bull****ter when he says things we don't want to hear.
    Exactly

    If Balague was saying that Suarez loved the city and was desperate to stay we'd all be lauding his information as spot on

    For what it's worth I think at the very least this indicates Suarez might want to leave. It seems likely it's Suarez's agent leaking the information, presumably with Luis's consent. Worrying times IMO

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    • Fredo
      Not to be taken seriously
      • Aug 2010
      • 35173

      #9572
      Originally posted by Pablo1981
      Exactly

      If Balague was saying that Suarez loved the city and was desperate to stay we'd all be lauding his information as spot on
      Well that would be more accurate and believable than stating he hates it.
      Are we winning?

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      • Darkon
        Football Expert
        • Apr 2007
        • 16264

        #9573
        Originally posted by Tee
        Not feeling comfortable with the excuse that the family do not like the city. Its pathetic really and I just hope its bull****, but Balague is connected so there must be some truth in it or he would never have gone with the story.
        But perhaps that was the only way to make him sign a new deal last summer, a guarentee for him to be able to leave if we couldn't compete (more or less).

        It's not uncommon, and at least we would make double what we paid for him, and IMO he is far from as irreplacable as some suggests.

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        • Tee
          El Pistolero
          • Jul 2006
          • 35788

          #9574
          Originally posted by Nigey
          Well that would be more accurate and believable than stating he hates it.
          Why? And how do you know it would be more accurate?
          "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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          • Pablo
            Anti-Antipodeanite
            • May 2007
            • 25808

            #9575
            Originally posted by Nigey
            Well that would be more accurate and believable than stating he hates it.
            Why would it be more accurate?

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            • Alex
              Administrator
              • Jul 2006
              • 37058

              #9576
              Originally posted by Nigey
              He might have written a book on Pepe but that doesn't make him privy to whatever goes into Pere's mind.
              No obviously not. What I mean is that he must know his agent, and so his agent might feed him things. (Which might well be bull****)
              *Except Michael, who died.

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              • Neil Young
                Prosecco Socialist
                • Aug 2006
                • 62564

                #9577
                Originally posted by Nigey
                The excuse is preposterous even if things change. I would understand if it was for footballing reasons (though it's arguable he would be more successful at Madrid) but I'm sure Luis is smarter than that.
                Come off it. There are lots of possible reasons why he signed a long term contract - a pay rise or better terms in some other way, the insertion of a low release clause so he can leave whenever he wants, the financial security of a long contract in case he gets badly injured... It's meaningless.
                .
                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                May the Lord bless this post.

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                • Fredo
                  Not to be taken seriously
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 35173

                  #9578
                  Originally posted by Tee
                  Why? And how do you know it would be more accurate?
                  Originally posted by Pablo1981
                  Why would it be more accurate?
                  I'm sure I've read or heard him saying he likes the City and feels at home here. So that would contradict what he said, so why would I believe it?

                  He might be a liar of course, but time will tell.
                  Are we winning?

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                  • Rich
                    Est1892's Fire Warden
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 34417

                    #9579
                    I think we've got to accept our position at the table - Read Madrid can double his wages over night, they're always fighting for the league (in Ramos' case literally ), and they play in the Champions League every year. We can't do any of those things, add in the non-footballing factors like language, family and weather and we are going to struggle to keep him if the rumours are true and they do want him.

                    For Suarez to turn Real Madrid DOWN would be the bigger surprise IMO.

                    Hopefully the €40m release clause doesn't exist - however I've a sneaky feeling that it is in there. We allowed Kuyt to have a £1m clause remember.
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                    • dww
                      humourless curmudgeon
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 29926

                      #9580
                      Originally posted by Darkon
                      But perhaps that was the only way to make him sign a new deal last summer, a guarentee for him to be able to leave if we couldn't compete (more or less).

                      It's not uncommon, and at least we would make double what we paid for him, and IMO he is far from as irreplacable as some suggests.
                      I think in the long term he would be replaceable but I think in terms of gaining momentum for a challenge for the top 4 or better next season then it would be very, very hard to end up in an equal or better position having sold him.
                      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                      -- William Blake

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                      • Arn
                        Alway confused
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 7129

                        #9581
                        Originally posted by Nigey
                        The excuse is preposterous even if things change. I would understand if it was for footballing reasons (though it's arguable he would be more successful at Madrid) but I'm sure Luis is smarter than that.
                        Well, I wouldn't even rule out that he bit Ivanovic so he could get a move. He had a few offers when he played at Ajax but they refused to sell him. After the bite they was prepared to sell him.

                        Suarez isn't an idiot. If he do something like that then he do it for a reason. He know that the cameras will pick it up.

                        But that is my opinion.
                        Stop the cyberhate


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                        • Fredo
                          Not to be taken seriously
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 35173

                          #9582
                          Originally posted by Neil Young
                          Come off it. There are lots of possible reasons why he signed a long term contract - a pay rise or better terms in some other way, the insertion of a low release clause so he can leave whenever he wants, the financial security of a long contract in case he gets badly injured... It's meaningless.
                          Of course, I'm probably a romantic.

                          Originally posted by Arn
                          Well, I wouldn't even rule out that he bit Ivanovic so he could get a move. He had a few offers when he played at Ajax but they refused to sell him. After the bite they was prepared to sell him.

                          Suarez isn't an idiot. If he do something like that then he do it for a reason. He know that the cameras will pick it up.

                          But that is my opinion.
                          Are we winning?

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                          • dww
                            humourless curmudgeon
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 29926

                            #9583
                            Originally posted by Pablo1981
                            Exactly

                            If Balague was saying that Suarez loved the city and was desperate to stay we'd all be lauding his information as spot on

                            For what it's worth I think at the very least this indicates Suarez might want to leave. It seems likely it's Suarez's agent leaking the information, presumably with Luis's consent. Worrying times IMO
                            That's such an equivocal statement it could have been made by Ballague a few years ago in his 'player x may or may not sign for Liverpool' days.

                            I think what it shows is that there is money to be made writing speculative stories about Suarez's future.
                            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                            -- William Blake

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                            • Neil Young
                              Prosecco Socialist
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 62564

                              #9584
                              People can like living somewhere but still move somewhere else. That doesn't make them liars.

                              All this is silly. We have no way of knowing what's going to happen. There's no point clutching at straws or shooting messengers - it's best to ignore it all and wait to see what happens.
                              .
                              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                              May the Lord bless this post.

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                              • spider-neil
                                Fagan
                                • May 2007
                                • 1180

                                #9585
                                If Suarez does indeed want out then I can only hope the 40m clause is bull**** because if it isn't that's all we're getting.
                                40m for a player that is comfortably in the top 5 players in world football. Sigh...

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