Luis Suárez

[Roboklopp]

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SPORT - Gordon Taylor tells us the PFA "need to clarify" the Suarez situation and how his contact can be interpreted by #Liverpool #LFC

Why doesnt he shut up before doing so then? Odious cunt.

[dom9]

Yeah you call it ruthless, I call it gutless.

So it seems.

[Sarb]

As Suarez again demands to walk away, here's why Liverpool must now wash their hands of this petulant, ungrateful and selfish manBy Dominic King
PUBLISHED: 00:31 GMT, 7 August 2013 | UPDATED: 10:36 GMT, 7 August 2013


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Luis Suarez shattered any prospect of his wrangle with Liverpool having a satisfactory outcome on Tuesday night when he decided to air his grievances; broken promises were cited, perspective was called for and, ultimately, demands were made.

The aim, clearly, was to get Suarez a step closer to Arsenal. All that was achieved, though, in an interview with two broadsheets newspapers, was that Uruguay striker was made to look desperate, petulant, ungrateful and selfish.

There are ways and means of securing a route out of a football club but the manner in which Suarez has gone about things this summer has been totally the wrong; this episode marks the nadir of a saga that has run and run.

One can only assume what Brendan Rodgers thought when he poured over the rhetoric that Suarez spouted, the accusations that Liverpool “went back on commitments” and that the manager has not been true to his word.

To put things into context, consider this: Suarez took part briefly in Liverpool’s training session at Melwood on Tuesday afternoon, jogging gingerly alongside Sebastian Coates and Philippe Coutinho as the squad warmed up before taking part In some shuttle sprints.
His injured foot would not stand up to the pressure, so Rodgers decided enough was enough and cut Suarez some slack, sending him into the main pavilion at Melwood to be assessed by the medical staff. He was then sent to go for a scan to ascertain the extent of the damage.


Yet as his colleague took off to go to Norway, where they will play Valerenga on Wednesday night, Suarez took aim and unleashed his grievances.

He claims he has told Rodgers all about how he is feeling and why he wants to go. Rodgers has so far refused to reveal anything about 'private conversations'.

At the Ullevaal Stadium, that may change. Liverpool would be well within their rights to fine Suarez now, as he has failed to show the conduct expected of a club employee. He has challenged authority and wants things his own way.

That he has even felt it necessary to suggest he will get the PFA and Premier League involved – we should not be surprised by this as he sought arbitration to engineer a move from Gronigen to Ajax – is possibly the things which will most startle Liverpool supporters.
Liverpool, do not forget, have come in for criticism like never before in their 121-year history due to Suarez: the staunch defending of him after the racism clash with Patrice Evra, the t-shirts they wore in support of him at Wigan, the backing after the biting of Branislav Ivanovic. It has all left a stain.

Does it mean anything to him? The only conclusion can be ‘no’. When he was feted at Steven Gerrard’s testimonial on Saturday, there was no acknowledgement to The Kop; the same was true when he took part in an open training session at Anfield on Monday.

After he joined up with Liverpool on their club tour last month, the initial brightness and bonhomie he showed at AAMI Stadium in his first training session, slowly drained away. The concocted £40,000,001 bid from Arsenal to trigger a clause in his contract messed with his head.

Perhaps he thought by now that some of the continent’s finest names would be forming an orderly queue for his services; that Juventus would return or Paris Saint-Germain would show an interest or Real Madrid would take him to the Spanish capital.
Will he get his wish? Liverpool could easily sit tight, keep him at the club and reintegrate him once he has served the remaining six matches of his ban for biting Ivanovic.

Reality, however, suggests this marriage must end in divorce.

And with that, it is worth remembering what Rodgers said in the moments after Suarez sank his teeth into Ivanovic on April 21.

‘Players are always replaceable,’ Rodgers explained. ‘It doesn't matter how good they think they are. Football is how it works. There are wonderful talents here, but we've shown over the years – this club and others – if you lose a player and think you can't replace him, the next one comes along.’
Liverpool will move on: and it has to be without Luis Suarez.


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[Sarb]

So it seems.

We can't always agree, Dom

[peekay]

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Cannot criticize Gordon Taylor for his comments. This is not a dispute between two players. This is a dispute between a player and a club. Because of the nature of the organization, he has to support Suarez. If he does not do that, he will be out of the job.

[dom9]

We can't always agree, Dom

True, you can't be right every time.

[badpiggy]

I hate the use of this image of footballers "whoring" themselves around - Maddock extends the metaphor even more distastefully in his article. There's something profoundly misogynistic in it.

Aside from that I couldn't give a **** whether Suarez stays or goes. This whole situation reveals football for the lie Rafa Benitez claims it to be. Everything about it seems corrupt and distasteful and reactionary - everything from Suarez ban for racism (I still think it was mismanaged and trumped up and lied about) to the way LFC have handled the sale and purchase of properties around Anfield. Glorious traditions my arse.

Of course this doesn't mean that I won't still be jumping out of my seat roaring and shouting when we score or don't or get a penalty or don't. But still, the whole sordid opulence and dishonesty of football is leaving me cold at the moment.

[Sarb]

Guardian - The first thing to understand about Suárez's interview is that he came to us. There was no pursuit this side. It was his idea.

[peekay]

I remember Rafa used to get criticisms from some segments of the press and the fans for treating players like chess pieces. It appears he was far ahead of the curve in terms of understanding player mentality - ungrateful, rich , spoilt men who deserve to be used and thrown at the clubs discretion.

[Buzzo]

I like and totally agree with this comment from one of the journos above.

It shouldn't really surprise anyone though. Football had stooped this low a long time ago, and merely continues to scrape along the bottom in a subterranean world deprived of moral oxygen.

[Kenneth]

Just chatting to my boss and he took someone to court (and won) for reneging on a verbal agreement about 15 years ago. Granted it was in Ireland so courts work differently.


But I guess these things have been done in the past.

When people argue that a verbal agreement is in place (and there is no direct evidence of it and the terms are disputed) then evidence of both parties behaving according to the supposed agreement is needed to really establish its existence. E.g one party agrees to sell goods to another via verbal contract and one party delivers goods and the other party pays for them subsequently. I doubt comparable behaviour exists in this instance.

And he's not talking about going to court in the first instance, he seems to want the PL to arbitrate which will be aimed at finding a solution acceptable to both/all sides, not necessarily clarifying the contract terms directly.

[EwarWoo]

I think we should at least make some sort of statement in response to his interview. Something along the lines of 'Luis needs to learn to shut the fcuk up'

Incoming tweet from Henry:
Next time Luis chats with Wenger he needs to borrow what he's been smoking and chill the **** out.

Would immediately grant him permanent legend status.

[Sarb]

The Guardian has ripped into him. It is the Forest/Utd fan Daniel Taylor though. They really do mock Suarez the press. He goes to them, gives an interview and the following day they're laying into him after starting the sh*tstorm.

[Sarb]

Incoming tweet from Henry:
Next time Luis chats with Wenger he needs to borrow what he's been smoking and chill the **** out.

Would immediately grant him permanent legend status.

Or

I don't know what Suarez has been smoking, but he is more than welcome to smoke my pipe because he is going nowhere

[Leyton388]

What does that even mean? The club is still in Liverpool.

The players, manager, MD and owner are all out of the country.