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    The quivering FA hide when real men of honour would take the lead
    By MARTIN SAMUEL

    Clearly insufficient. Don’t you just love the Football Association when they come over all masterful?
    According to the guardians of our game, the standard ban of three matches for violent conduct would, in the case of Luis Suarez, be inadequate. How times change. When Jermain Defoe did much the same thing in 2006 the offence was deemed worthy of no more than a yellow card. Off you go you little scamp, said the FA, it really is none of our business.
    For an organisation with a media arm so grand it may shortly qualify as an independent nation in the European Championship group stages, the FA behave as if we exist in the pre-internet age. In the good old days before Google, discipline could be dispensed on the hoof, after a lively lunch and with scant regard for precedent or consistency.


    To question the FA’s stance required both a cuttings library and a damn good memory. Garrincha was sent off in the 1962 World Cup semi-final for Brazil against Chile. At his FIFA hearing it was claimed he had acted only under severe provocation and had never been dismissed in his career. By a vote of five to two, he received a ‘symbolic reprimand’ and was cleared to play in the final, which Brazil won.
    In fact, Garrincha had already been sent off three times for his club, Botafogo, twice in Brazil and once against Barcelona of Spain. In 1962, though, who knew? Yet the moment Suarez sank his teeth into Branislav Ivanovic, a rudimentary search for ‘football biting’ immediately turned up an incident between Defoe and Javier Mascherano in October 2006.

    And also the FA’s scandalous reaction to it.

    From this we know that Defoe’s manager, Martin Jol, dismissed it with a joke, that Defoe downplayed the seriousness of it in his half-hearted apology and that, most appallingly, the FA considered the matter closed with the issue of a yellow card by referee Steve Bennett. Seen and dealt with was the official line. Can’t re-referee the game, old chum.

    No mention of a punishment that was clearly insufficient. No citing of a rule, highlighted this week by former FA compliance officer Graham Bean, that gives the governing body power to issue a misconduct charge ‘if the penalty does not fit the crime’. A rule that would appear to trump the mealy mouthed excuse of not wishing to undermine officials by pronouncing twice on the same event.
    For if the FA have a get out of jail card linking crime and suitable punishment then the inertia we have witnessed over violent conduct in recent weeks — and for months and years before that — is inexcusable.

    The FA witness tackles that could break legs, see arms thrown that cause brain damage, and pretend to be powerless to act. Then they alight on a show case and pounce. If they can weigh off the odd unsympathetic character like Suarez or John Terry, it makes them look decisive and principled.
    The reality is they hide behind the skirts of FIFA, quivering when men of honour would take a moral lead.

    We know what should have happened to Callum McManaman of Wigan Athletic, to Manchester City’s Sergio Aguero, to Sheffield United captain Chris Morgan many years ago when he left Iain Hume of Barnsley with a fractured skull.
    We know what should have happened to Defoe, too. Instead, the FA will get their day in court and, amid a blaze of self-serving publicity, call it justice.

    Suarez will miss the rest of this season and as much as one month of next because, randomly, referee Kevin Friend was unaware of the extent of his transgression. Had he followed Bennett’s lead and merely booked Suarez, we presume nothing would be done. The governance of football cannot rely on oversights or bizarre twists of fate.
    The FA must be putting their hands together in thanks for Friend’s ineffectuality. With an attentive referee they would not be able to indulge another favourite pastime: responding to big headlines.
    There is nothing the FA loves more than a steaming, great call for something to be done. Always providing they are in the mood to do something.
    Remember when Eden Hazard of Chelsea kicked that ballboy at Swansea City? Disgraceful. Yet when Matt Ritchie of Swindon Town did the same to a teenager at Oxford United less than a year earlier? No further action required. No headlines, no glory, not worth the fuss.

    Hazard’s was another punishment that the FA considered clearly insufficient, yet they never consider addressing the problem in their rule book. A player is bitten and the FA issue statements as if the inadequacy of the system has come as a total shock. They were forced to climb down over Hazard when their double standards were exposed, but this will be different. There was wider public sympathy for the Chelsea player than exists for Suarez, so the FA can don the black cap with confidence.

    Certainly, only the most one-eyed admirer of the Uruguayan, or of Liverpool, is building a case for the defence. Biting is one of those offences that goes beyond the pale.
    Gus Poyet, Suarez’s compatriot and manager of Brighton and Hove Albion, has attempted to debate why English football abhors it, yet often indulges a vicious tackle that could shatter bones, but few are ready for nuance just yet. They want Suarez brought to book and the FA are puppy-dog eager to oblige.

    Yet is this the way forward for the game? Are we merely to rely on a set of haphazard circumstances falling fortuitously if justice is to be served?
    We will act, say the FA, always providing an offence has been clearly committed, the referee hasn’t seen it, an old rule can be dug up and a man of principle is running the show that day. Otherwise, they are their own Mr Loophole, getting miscreants off the hook with jargon and technicalities.

    So what if FIFA frown on additional punishments meted out from on high? This is about what is right, not what is vaguely written. Bring it on.
    If the FA take a lead in administering fitting penalties for exceptionally violent behaviour, they will be on the right side of the argument and the rest of football will follow. Some braver associations are halfway there already.
    And the rules are in place. Everyone knows that McManaman should have been severely punished for his tackle on Massadio Haidara of Newcastle United. Richard Scudamore, chief executive of the Premier League, pointed out the provision in FA rules to review a decision in extraordinary circumstances.


    It is the same clause Bean identified about the penalty fitting the crime. It could be enforced for any challenge that resulted in serious injury, whether seen by the referee or not. A player might receive a red card for a reckless or foul challenge, but if it is stunningly malicious, the coupling of crime and punishment surely permits the FA to extend the ban.

    When former Manchester United captain Roy Keane took out Alf-Inge Haaland of Manchester City, the straight red card shown by referee David Elleray was, to coin a phrase, clearly insufficient considering the savagery of the tackle. Yet it was not until Keane wrote about it in his autobiography, revealing the brute nature of his intentions, that the FA could levy the longer suspension he deserved.
    This has to stop. We hear so much about the fine stewardship of FA chairman David Bernstein and how it is such a pity that he will soon be standing down but, like the rest of his number, he has failed to address one of the key issues of the modern game.
    With the benefit of technology, we can see the challenges and instances that require further attention.

    We can differentiate between fouls, even bad ones, and more outrageous extremes.
    We understand that a referee can see an incident — as Bennett did Defoe’s reaction to Mascherano — without computing its enormity.

    Bennett probably thought Defoe put his head towards Mascherano, without realising he had sunk his teeth into his upper arm.
    He should not have been hostage to that mistake. This is for the FA to resolve and to fail in this duty would be insufficient. Not to mention pathetic, cowardly, and very, very wrong.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...#ixzz2RMrnwqb1
    What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins

    Batman

    F*** off!!!

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      Originally posted by G View Post
      Jesus christ even bluto Samuel in the mail is having a pop at the FA over it.

      Have I slipped into some parallel universe over night?
      Ha was just about to post similar.

      Genuine question - can anyone actually put forth a good argument as to why Suarez should receive more than a three game ban? Other than a personal opinion that biting is worse than a "standard" violent conduct incident.

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        I thought it would pan out with this, he's the gift that keeps giving to the media.

        Helps the story run and run.

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          They should've done what many parents of small children would do and let Ivanovic bite him back. That way he'd know that what he does hurts and isn't right. That should then be the end of it

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            No parallel universe - Sky have briefed them all that under no circumstances can their box office pantomime villain be driven out of the Premier League.

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              Luis Suárez and Liverpool had no choice but to challenge length of FA suspension following Branislav Ivanovic bite

              Luis Suárez’s challenge to the Football Association’s call for an extended ban should be seen entirely in the context of legal compulsion rather than another public relations own goal.

              By Chris Bascombe

              6:30AM BST 24 Apr 2013

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              The Liverpool striker has shifted position from one where he expressed only remorse for his actions to one of added defiance at the suggestion he should miss more than the next three league fixtures.

              On the face of it, it seems to be a bold, borderline reckless response risking further censure for the South American. However, it should be noted Suárez will make submissions to an independent commission convened by the FA, not to the FA itself. It should have no negative impact on the panel’s deliberations.

              Nobody is disputing Suárez’s guilt, but he and his club feel they have a duty to ensure today’s hearing provides reasoned arguments both for and against calls for the striker to be banned for a disproportionate amount of time.

              The notion that Suárez should submissively agree to whatever penalty is thrown at him, regardless of how severe, is as preposterous as the hysterical screams for the player to be banned for life.

              If Liverpool were not expected to offer some legal response and querying of why the ban should be extended, it would undermine the idea of setting up an independent body to begin with. Why bother? Just dish out the penalty and be done with it.

              Inevitably, there are those who will see this as a mistake and it is nonsensical to claim Suárez should be given only a three-match suspension for such a savage act. Liverpool are fully aware of that.

              But this fails to recognise the entirely logical reasons for Suárez to manoeuvre into a position that can be interpreted almost as one as bargaining. What else would be his starting position? Accept four games? Five maybe? Shake hands at six?

              The idea of Suárez being banned for 10 or even 12 games has been casually dropped into the debate with minimal challenge in the past 72 hours.

              Suárez will state his case against such a ban, let the argument progress and anticipate the commission makes its judgment based on more than a single criterion of throwing the book and just about everything else at him.

              Unlikely as Liverpool are to get away with just three matches, there can be no element of risk of motivating a heavier ban.

              That is because, as the FA itself is at pains to point out, the disciplinary panel it has convened is independent from the governing body and has no cause to be unduly influenced by it.

              Liverpool, for all the contrition they displayed on Suárez’s behalf, are entitled to some concern that a climate of hysteria can impact on today’s judgment. It is not often the Prime Minister’s office feels compelled to pass comment on a case before it has even been heard. Those remarks on Monday implying an example should be made of Suárez were highly prejudicial. The FA was unhappy about this, too.

              And although the extraordinary actions of Suárez on Sunday have justifiably dominated the news agenda ever since, any club can express concern that the outright, virtually universal condemnation of the player – understandable though it might be in some cases – could lead to a couple of additional fixtures added to the suspension. There is a feeling recent incidents where players could have suffered career-threatening injury deserved as much, if not more, attention.

              So Suárez will say three is enough, probably in the hope he will get fewer than 10.

              The issue after the judgment will be whether Suárez appeals should he believe the suspension too long. If he does, it is only then he will be risking extending the ban.

              That would be an act of defiance against the independent commission. A commission which only from today – based appropriately on two points of view – can establish with far more authority than all those of us sitting in judgment whether three games or far longer is appropriate for Suárez.
              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                What time is the result due out?

                When Fergie has finished training for the day?

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                  We are clearly using at least one PR company this time
                  Stop the cyberhate


                  from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                  Susan Black

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                    Originally posted by fah-q View Post
                    What time is the result due out?

                    When Fergie has finished training for the day?
                    Not sure but I believe the panel are meeting at 12 midday
                    Substance > Style

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                      Spot on by Bascombe. I said something similar yesterday. Maybe he reads these forums

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                        Originally posted by Sarb View Post
                        Spot on by Bascombe. I said something similar yesterday. Maybe he reads these forums
                        Of all the articles posted above, I thought his was the weakest.
                        Oh I don't know.

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                          Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                          Of all the articles posted above, I thought his was the weakest.
                          I preferred Carra's. The 10 game ban concerns me though

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                            Originally posted by Sarb View Post
                            I preferred Carra's. The 10 game ban concerns me though
                            In my opinion, the FA's disciplinary process is not fit for purpose. They take the role of judge, jury and executioner. We know this already. It's a well covered debate on forums.

                            The FA have an 'independent panel' appointed by themselves and they have already prejudiced the outcome of the trial with the wording of their 'charge' statement. That is inexusable. The process is broken. The people in charge, incompetent, if not corrupt (not in a bribe taking manner).

                            The other articles (Carra's excepted) allude to this explicitly or implicitly, but those points appear to be completely lost on Bascombe.
                            Oh I don't know.

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                              Originally posted by Reece View Post
                              Ha was just about to post similar.

                              Genuine question - can anyone actually put forth a good argument as to why Suarez should receive more than a three game ban? Other than a personal opinion that biting is worse than a "standard" violent conduct incident.
                              Not sure, but Barclay was on SSN saying he fully supports the Mails campaign to make an example of Suarez and he hopes they get the justice they deserve.
                              If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                                Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                                In my opinion, the FA's disciplinary process is not fit for purpose. They take the role of judge, jury and executioner. We know this already. It's a well covered debate on forums.

                                The FA have an 'independent panel' appointed by themselves and they have already prejudiced the outcome of the trial with the wording of their 'charge' statement. That is inexusable. The process is broken. The people in charge, incomptetent.

                                The other articles (Carra's excepted) allude to this explicitly or implicitly, but those points appear to be completely lost on Bascombe.
                                Yeah you are right on the panel. Buck and Gourlay said the same thing when they did this hour long chat on Talksport. They questioned the independence.

                                Apparently, the commission has 1 Chairman, 1 ex-pro and 1 member of the FA commission. I am not sure how that is classed as independent. I'm pretty sure it's the FA who select the panel. In Suarez racism case, 1 of the guy's was someone who claimed to be Fergie's best mate, another one with a link to Utd and then some barrister.

                                The FA in general are not fit for purpose. I don't agree with Oliver Holt but he says it's the player being punished, not the crime. I'm not sure how the FA can release a statement like they did and then we see a fair hearing. Just won't happen.

                                That's the issue most have with this. He should be punished, but there is no way anyone could guess the punishment he will get. They are entirely inconsistent

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