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    Originally posted by Darkon View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to have him here and we could do a lot worse as well. It's nice having someone to be able to do something out of the ordinary for once. But if we could get 50m for him, I think we would make a very good deal for ourselves.

    And so far in his for us he has been fairly ineffective in front of goal. IIRC he have in his LFC time so far scored on about 7% of the shots he takes, in comparission Van Persie is at about 22% (although he is crazy good right now), Demba Ba is at about 30 %, Rooney 21% and Aguero who you compare him with is somewhere around 22%.

    I think the main problem so far is that he have had to play the lone striker in to many games, and he is not the right type of player to do that. We have created plenty of chances this season, but have to lowest effectiveness in the league so far, and that is telling a lot about our strikers - not just Suarez.

    Anyways in short; I think we could get a better team for 50m than we get in keeping Suarez as it currently stands.
    We wouldn't get 50mill for him though, they're only talking in Euros, he's achieved no where near as much as Torres here so far, so not a chance of any team paying 50mill.

    30 absolute tops imo.

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      Originally posted by Darkon View Post
      I would sell him for for that amount.
      And who will you buy with that money if you do? If we're unwilling to pay ongoing wage rate for top, top player you will not be seeing Cavani, Hazard etc. even if we can afford the transfer fee..

      He is not for sale for me. He will get better as he is mentally strong and I expect him next year to tear the league apart..


      Originally posted by Chris View Post
      Crazy. We need to build with him not without him. He's going nowhere.
      Absolutely. I'd pull Daniel Levy on him if I have to. Not for sale.
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        Originally posted by Darkon View Post
        To me it's not about caving in, it's about getting double what we paid for a good but quite ineffective striker. For that amount I firmly believe we could replace him with someone giving us more goals and still have money for a good midfielder.
        I'm sure we would consider what it would take to build a team around Carroll.

        I'm thinking a more mobile midfield with a big ass striker up front (Porto style).

        Or we can just buy Hulk who looks ****ing good.
        Was muß, das muß.

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          I get what Darkon is saying. But we are looking to rebuild and become a force again. You don't do that by selling your best players. Although, the money they are offering is a tidy sum, whos to say that the owners don't have that cash behind them.
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            Originally posted by Alex View Post
            I get what Darkon is saying. But we are looking to rebuild and become a force again. You don't do that by selling your best players. Although, the money they are offering is a tidy sum, whos to say that the owners don't have that cash behind them.
            Is this the PSG thing were all on about here, 50mill Euros is the figure, so not that tidy is it ?

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              I'd rather we build a team around Suarez and that means players with faster feet and brains such as Cavani, Hulk, Hazard and Lucas.

              We can't expect to progress with such pedestrian build up play.
              Was muß, das muß.

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                Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                And who will you buy with that money if you do? If we're unwilling to pay ongoing wage rate for top, top player you will not be seeing Cavani, Hazard etc. even if we can afford the transfer fee..

                He is not for sale for me. He will get better as he is mentally strong and I expect him next year to tear the league apart..




                Absolutely. I'd pull Daniel Levy on him if I have to. Not for sale.
                I expected that this year, and as good as he is, he does not score enough goals. He should be near the top of the charts with the chances he has squandered.

                Sure, he will have a purple patch here and there, but his finishing is too eratic imo. £50m? Yes, as long as we have a replacement who can score goals.
                Oh I don't know.

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                  Originally posted by Alex View Post
                  I get what Darkon is saying. But we are looking to rebuild and become a force again. You don't do that by selling your best players. Although, the money they are offering is a tidy sum, whos to say that the owners don't have that cash behind them.
                  In this case it's much more than just selling your best player.

                  It would almost feel that Mr. Fergie won if we sell him this summer and I personally would be very disappointed if we decide to put him on the chopping block.

                  He is our best player and instead of selling we should be buying few genuine quality players to get the best out of him and give him a chance to truly shine as he has skill set to be the best player in PL and takes us places in process.
                  Last edited by Mostar; 16-02-12, 05:03 PM.
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                    Originally posted by foresterbloke View Post
                    I'd rather we build a team around Suarez and that means players with faster feet and brains such as Cavani, Hulk, Hazard and Lucas.

                    We can't expect to progress with such pedestrian build up play.
                    So so true. We are painfully slow in our build-up. Frustrating or what.
                    "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                      Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                      And who will you buy with that money if you do? If we're unwilling to pay ongoing wage rate for top, top player you will not be seeing Cavani, Hazard etc. even if we can afford the transfer fee..

                      He is not for sale for me. He will get better as he is mentally strong and I expect him next year to tear the league apart..
                      If we don't want to pay top money, we have no chance of holding on to Suarez in the long run if he is a top top player, so it's a self defeating way of thinking IMO.

                      I'm not sure who exactly I would buy and I don't really fint it helpfull to just namedrop, but looking at a lot of footy around Europe and I see plenty of strikers that look to be at least as good for less money.

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                        50,000,000.00 eur = 41,412,951.72 gbp

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                          Originally posted by Mostar View Post
                          In case it much more than just selling your best player.

                          It would almost feel that Mr. Fergie won if we sell him this summer and I personally would be very disappointed if we decide to put him in the chopping block.

                          He is our best player and instead of selling we should be buying few genuine quality players to get the best out of him and give him a chance to truly shine as he has skill set to be the best player in PL and takes us places.
                          I don't give a s*** about what it means to Fergie, if he feel he has one then so what? If we don't sell him for a huge sum that could improve our overall team because Ferguson believes he shouldn't play for us, we would be shooting ourselves in the foot just to defy Ferguson - makes no sense tbh.

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                            Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                            I expected that this year, and as good as he is, he does not score enough goals. He should be near the top of the charts with the chances he has squandered.

                            Sure, he will have a purple patch here and there, but his finishing is too eratic imo. £50m? Yes, as long as we have a replacement who can score goals.
                            The key is if we could get a replacement that can score goals, and that's really down to the market.

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                              Originally posted by Chris View Post
                              Crazy. We need to build with him not without him. He's going nowhere.


                              Selling our best players would be a bad sign for us right now.
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                                Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                                I expected that this year, and as good as he is, he does not score enough goals. He should be near the top of the charts with the chances he has squandered.

                                Sure, he will have a purple patch here and there, but his finishing is too eratic imo. £50m? Yes, as long as we have a replacement who can score goals.
                                There is so much more to Luis game than scoring goals and even though he should be definitely putting more in the net he is not out and out type of a striker.

                                Also who is he playing with atm. He rarely played with Stevie and the types of players that he has been surrounded this and last year will hardly get the best out of him or any other top class footballer.

                                Let's buy Cavani types of a striker and Goetze/Hazard type of AM and let's see what happens with his goal production and level of his game in general.

                                He barely scratched the surface in terms of what he can offer to this team and I wouldn't sell him under no circumstances.
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