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    Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
    We are not, we just are really lacking in midfield though.
    or poor tactics leave the strikers needing something special

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      Just about his tendency to go for the spectacular.

      I lost my rag with him for the first time against West Brom last week when he slalomed through loads of players then went for a glory shot from a crazy angle. Like his failed chip today, some say it's cocky and whatnot but I'm convinced it's not...to me it's to do with the fact he plays like a kid in the playground. People say that about Rooney but to me Suarez is the ultimate example - it's not due to cockiness....he just gets over-excited, I'm convinced of it.

      And when he does stuff like he's done today, it's easier to understand why he's maybe tried to do too much earlier in the season. He knows he can do it but doesn't have enough quality around him. I just ****ing love the lad.
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        Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
        Yeah, that's the logic you've been using no? Who creates chances for Suarez, himself, therefore we're a one man team.
        Nope.
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          Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
          Just about his tendency to go for the spectacular.

          I lost my rag with him for the first time against West Brom last week when he slalomed through loads of players then went for a glory shot from a crazy angle. Like his failed chip today, some say it's cocky and whatnot but I'm convinced it's not...to me it's to do with the fact he plays like a kid in the playground. People say that about Rooney but to me Suarez is the ultimate example - it's not due to cockiness....he just gets over-excited, I'm convinced of it.

          And when he does stuff like he's done today, it's easier to understand why he's maybe tried to do too much earlier in the season. He knows he can do it but doesn't have enough quality around him. I just ****ing love the lad.
          I agree mate. I love him as well but he's infuriating. That sitter he missed. He needs to have far more awareness (which he has because he can create as well) for us to succeed. We could have achieved far more if he worked on that this season. I don't know if it's a coaching issue, tend to think that Kenny wants him to try things instead of trying to curb his instincts, like you say he's just like a kid in a playground - his workrate is incredible.

          It's going to be a challenge making a combination work - probably sticking with Stevie to play with him. Maybe it's a question of trust knowing that Stevie is that good, so it'll create more awareness in him.

          He won't score like that every game, this we can be certain of.
          Are we winning?

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            That's the spirit.
            If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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              Luis said himself, once on the pitch he becomes an excited kid.

              As infuriating as it can be, I love it...

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                cant believe that sly little Uruguayan had the nerve to score a hat trick in "our" premier league and the way he cheated to score that 3rd goal by the horrible way he lobbed the keeper from just inside there half what happened to sportsmanship ****in ban him!!! Martin Samuel will be furious!!!!
                Oh I say his vision there was lovely

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                  Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                  Nope.
                  We're lacking in midfield in a defensive sense, that's for sure. As a whole don't think it has performed that badly this season. How can you explain the amount of chances we create? Not sure I understand what you're on though, I think you're overcomplicating things.

                  We're moving forward, of that I'm certain despite our poor showing in the league. I think (and I hope the owners have seen that as well) that we're gonna give Kenny another year.

                  Our football has improved ten fold. We seem to play with far more freedom now and I include the days under Rafa as well. We just need to be more efficient but Kenny won't try to curb that freedom of trying to play while trying to achieve that. After all, he knows this club inside out and knows how we should play the game.

                  We'll see end of next year where we are for a more accurate picture.
                  Are we winning?

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                    just a sublime player who can do the incredible and audacious on a whim. His play can frustrate at times and he's not perfect, but find me a world class player who is/was. Ronaldo dives more than Tom Daley, Messi can go missing in big big game, yet all 3 are utterly amazing players. Love that he wears our shirt.

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                      Originally posted by johnly View Post
                      just a sublime player who can do the incredible and audacious on a whim. His play can frustrate at times and he's not perfect, but find me a world class player who is/was. Ronaldo dives more than Tom Daley, Messi can go missing in big big game, yet all 3 are utterly amazing players. Love that he wears our shirt.


                      Because he didn't score against Chelsea?
                      If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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                        Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
                        We're lacking in midfield in a defensive sense, that's for sure. As a whole don't think it has performed that badly this season. How can you explain the amount of chances we create? Not sure I understand what you're on though, I think you're overcomplicating things.

                        We're moving forward, of that I'm certain despite our poor showing in the league. I think (and I hope the owners have seen that as well) that we're gonna give Kenny another year.

                        Our football has improved ten fold. We seem to play with far more freedom now and I include the days under Rafa as well. We just need to be more efficient but Kenny won't try to curb that freedom of trying to play while trying to achieve that. After all, he knows this club inside out and knows how we should play the game.

                        We'll see end of next year where we are for a more accurate picture.
                        We are lacking in midfield in general imo, only Lucas and Gerrard are of the standard required. We need more quality out wide that is certain and definitely up front.
                        Chances created is not an indicator of chance quality. I think you are over simplifying things.

                        Really? I thought we were better at the end of last season and general (while still lacking depth) had better players. We have without doubt gone backwards from that in my mind. We are on course for one of our worst seasons in a long time, sorry that is a huge step backwards and a lot of it is due to substandard players. I don't think the Kenny is the man to take us forward in any sense.

                        The league position is an accurate indicator of where we are, it is significantly poorer than last season despite half a season with Roy.
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                          Originally posted by RedReet View Post


                          Because he didn't score against Chelsea?
                          ha no, not at all, there's been many an occassiona when he's been quiet. Ronaldo is very similar too. He can wander off in big games.

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                            Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
                            Our football has improved ten fold. We seem to play with far more freedom now and I include the days under Rafa as well. We just need to be more efficient but Kenny won't try to curb that freedom of trying to play while trying to achieve that. After all, he knows this club inside out and knows how we should play the game.

                            We'll see end of next year where we are for a more accurate picture.
                            ?!?! Our football has improved ten fold? We play with far more freedom? Maybe we do, because half the time we seem to not know what we're supposed to be doing. Under Rafa we didn't need that much freedom, because everyone knew what to do and everyone did it, as Rafa told them to?

                            I guess we'll agree to disagree

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                              That was more like it. He is undoubtedly a superb player, wish he produced the goods more often. He's earned a reprieve.

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                                Originally posted by johnly View Post
                                ha no, not at all, there's been many an occassiona when he's been quiet. Ronaldo is very similar too. He can wander off in big games.
                                Not having that. Scores in most finals for Barca and scores against Madrid, not to mention scores against every other team in the world.

                                Doesn't score for Argentina, but he's played in much bigger occasions and socred, most notably the CL final twice.

                                When is it he's choked, bearing in mind he can't score every single game?
                                If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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