Luis Suárez

[Captain Stu]

OMG. Bitters suggesting that Jelavic is better than Suarez!!

[Fosterbloke]

OMG. Bitters suggesting that Jelavic is better than Suarez!!

Better teeth maybe..

[RedReet]

OMG. Bitters suggesting that Jelavic is better than Suarez!!

That actually reminds me...

Oi Bender!!!

Still laughing?

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=2401773&postcount=219

http://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=2401844&postcount=221

[Shaggy]

OMG. Bitters suggesting that Jelavic is better than Suarez!!

Two of my Bitter mates have been on that for a while, since last season. Totally deluded cunts. Jelavic has something like 1 in 12. He was *wank* again last night LOL. He's a good finisher at his best but that's it, that's all he is.

[Captain Stu]

Better teeth maybe..

Two of my Bitter mates have been on that for a while, since last season. Totally deluded cunts. Jelavic has something like 1 in 12. He was *wank* again last night LOL. He's a good finisher at his best but that's it, that's all he is.

Just megalolz.

He's a great poacher and a "natural" finisher for sure but for me he's the same type of player as Defoe in that if he isn't scoring he offers you absolutely nothing.

EDIT: Here's the thread btw... http://www.evertonfc.com/forum/discu...-for-suarez/p1

[Reece]

OptaJoe @OptaJoe
69 - Luis Suarez has made more successful dribbles than any other player in the Premier League this season. Jink.

[BigChief]

He's our very own Joe Cole!

[Gibbo]

http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.u...dge-in-tandem/

A 5-0 home hammering of Norwich last Saturday helped Liverpool to their biggest win of the season as Brendan Rodgers handed Daniel Sturridge his first league start as the lone forward. The former Chelsea man vindicated his manager’s decision by registering his third goal in as many games and while his inclusion saw Luis Suarez drop deeper, the Uruguayan also found the net and collected the maximum Fantasy Premier League (FPL) bonus points against the Canaries:

Second only to Robin Van Persie in the FPL standings this season, Suarez’s new role may have many anticipating a downturn in Fantasy potential – as a result, we cast an eye over the statistics to ascertain whether a more withdrawn berth could prove detrimental to his long-term prospects.


Looking at his average positions over the season so far, Suarez definitely played deeper when in possession (above left) against Chris Hughton’s outfit, with the vast majority of the previous Gameweeks seeing him further forward. Everything, however, is relative here – Suarez (7, slightly obscured by Fabio Borini’s 29) remained the most advanced starting forward when on the ball at Anfield (above right), with Sturridge (23) averaging a deeper position when in possession; a positive sign for the Uruguayan’s 30% FPL owners that the latter’s arrival won’t harm his ability to produce in the opponents’ final third.

Question is, then, how did this affect Suares’z overall Opta statistics?

SUAREZ GW1-22 VERSUS SUAREZ GW23

Suarez had marginally more touches in the opposition half on Saturday compared to his previous average over the course of the campaign, registering 62 to 58, while his touches in the final third took a very slight dip – down from 45.1 to 43. His overall involvement was boosted as the Reds looked to get him on the ball as much as possible, increasing from a previous 1.4 minutes per touch to 1.2 against the Canaries; again, this is backed up by 28 passes received in the final third compared to 24.3 beforehand. Suarez also made more successful passes in the final third, up from 16.1 to 19 in the 5-0 rout.

Tchs Final 3rd Pass Rcvd Final 3rd Succ Pass Final 3rd Tchs Pen Box Shots Shots in Box Chances Created Mins/Shot Mins/Chance Created
Suarez GW 23 43 28 19 10 3 2 5 31 18.6
Suarez GW 1-22 45.1 24.3 16.1 12 6 4 2.8 15.7 34.1
In terms of dribbles, Suarez’s stats were pretty much identical – his total of 10 attempted at the weekend was in line with 9.6 per appearance from Gameweek 1-22. His touches in the box did decrease, though; prior to Saturday, he averaged 12 but this slipped to 10, while his number of goal attempts plummeted – a previous total of six shots per appearance dropped to three, and this also applies to his efforts from close range, which moved from four shots in the box down to two. On the upside, his creativity rocketed – Suarez created five goalscoring opportunities from his role in “the hole”, a significant improvement on his previous 2.8 over 22 matches for the Merseysiders.

In short then, Suarez’s goal attempts basically halved against Norwich, slipping from 15.7 minutes per effort to 31 minutes on Saturday, while his assist potential more or less doubled, up from 34.1 minutes per chance created to 18.6. While a single game is not enough to cause too much alarm, there’s a definite indication his new role has the potential to alter Suarez’s output.

SUAREZ VERSUS STURRIDGE

Looking at Sturridge’s stats from his 69 minute appearance in Saturday’s game, it’s clear his interpretation of the lone forward role differs from that of Suarez. Liverpool are looking to involve Sturridge far less in the overall build-up play – he had almost half the number of touches than Suarez in the final third at the weekend (23 to 43), a tally which is also virtually half Suarez’s previous 45.1 as the most advanced forward. An average of just 1.8 minutes per touch indicates Sturridge is content to allow Suarez possession and make himself available via runs off the opposition back-four, with his movement affording his strike partner more space to play in.

Tchs Final 3rd Pass Rcvd Final 3rd Succ Pass Final 3rd Tchs Pen Box Shots Shots in Box Chances Created Mins/Shot Mins/Chance Created
Sturridge GW 23 23 16 16 3 4 3 0 17.3 N/A
Intriguingly, Sturridge had just three touches in the opposition box – while this was significantly less than Suarez on Saturday (and a quarter of the Uruguayan’s previous average), the former Chelsea man’s eye for goal is all too apparent; all three of those touches resulted in a shot at goal. Sturridge had more shots than Suarez both overall (four to three) and in the box (three to two) suggesting that, while he may feature significantly less in the build-up, his threat could mirror his team mate’s.

It’s telling, however, that Sturridge didn’t create a single scoring chance on Saturday – an indication that, as their partnership clicks, Suarez is still likely to offer greater all-round potential compared to Sturridge’s pure goal threat. Nevertheless, with a FPL price tag of 7.4 to the Uruguayan’s 10.5, the new boy is certainly staking a claim for our Fantasy attentions – three goals in 169 minutes in all competitions has turned heads, too. Granted, the next two matches (ars, mcy) are far from enticing but by the time Gameweek 26 comes around, Sturridge is likely to have built up full match-fitness and will be capable of lasting the full 90 minutes – a superb run of fixtures from that point on is likely to present both forwards to maintain their flourishing form, if Saturday’s display is anything to go by.

*The Technical Area is put together using the statistics and maps available in our members area. For access to such data and tools on every player, team and match of the 2012/13 season, and for exclusive members articles like this, click here for details.

[Le Chef]

Didn't take long before they started putting 2 and 2 together

From the beeb

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German giants Bayern Munich are considering a £40m bid for Liverpool striker Luis Suarez, 25, claims the Daily Express.

[Alex]

More lazy Journalism. As if Pep has had a chat with Bayern about who he wants in. I guess at the moment he is still looking at his options and current players.

[ronanm]

Just megalolz.

He's a great poacher and a "natural" finisher for sure but for me he's the same type of player as Defoe in that if he isn't scoring he offers you absolutely nothing.

EDIT: Here's the thread btw... http://www.evertonfc.com/forum/discu...-for-suarez/p1

Jokers - look at the "Spurs did us a huge favour tonight" thread

"Spurs took two points of our friendly neighbours from down the East Lancs Road tonight. ..Its frustrating to hear so many Evertonians complain about a lack of signings and ask how many players we need to sign to break into the top four. Everton are a very good team now and we only need to make one signing, a new Eric Cantona, to be champions let alone top 4."

[Pablo]

Jokers - look at the "Spurs did us a huge favour tonight" thread

"Spurs took two points of our friendly neighbours from down the East Lancs Road tonight. ..Its frustrating to hear so many Evertonians complain about a lack of signings and ask how many players we need to sign to break into the top four. Everton are a very good team now and we only need to make one signing, a new Eric Cantona, to be champions let alone top 4."

And another:

i actually agree mate, i was sat round the dinner table tonight and i said exactly the same thing. We are 2 players short of winning the league.

We have massively under achieved this season, and we should see our selves comfortably on the coat tails of the 2 manchester clubs, if we had those couple of players, we would be.

Dear me

[Pablo]

It just gets worse:

what's wrong with you people??

how can we be over achieving when we have drawn about 7 games we should have won??

we ARE MASSIVELY UNDER ACHIEVING this season. We should be definitely above Chelsea with out a doubt, and on the coat tails of the top 2. I said before the season started we could win the league....i firmly believe if we can keep the whole squad fit for a whole season and add a couple of players then there is every chance.

Whoever said that City's manager fails them is right and this Hoodoo that the other Manchester club are invincible needs to be broken because they are not.....Vidic and Ferdinand are coming to the end, Van Persie and Rooney are not gettign any younger and Evra isnt far off getting past his best.......

I agree with TonyD when he say's its a bit of a joke that we accept that its ok to finish 5th or 6th, yeah we are finishing in the right area of the league by doing this, but us as fans should expect and want more.......its like we are using our financial position as an excuse not to get behind the team and be positive,,,,,what;s the atmosphere like when we were playing the teams around us in the league at Goodison? Then tell me what its like when we are playing the teams in the bottom half......EXACTLY.

Think some times people forget that WE ARE EVERTON.

[Reece]

Hahaha and I thought some of our fans were deluded

[Pablo]

Better team than Man Utd too apparently:

I agree. You may recall me making the point many times on here that I couldn't figure out how Man Utd came within 30 seconds of winning the Premier League last sason - because their team, last season (especially without Vidic) were no great shakes whatsoever. They were a poor enough team! And staring strongest 11 versus strongest starting 11, we have every bit as good a team as theirs (actually I think better - in the second half of the season anyway). I've made the point many times that if you put the Man Utd players in Everton shirts and the Everton players in Man Utd shirts, the result would have been the same - Man Utd would have been winning the title or at least getting very close to it and Everton would have been scrapping around 4th, 5th, 6th.

But why?

IMO, the expectation of and around the club is one reason for it.
The referees constantly favouring them is another.
And Alex Ferguson is the biggest reason for it!

Would Moyes and the aura around Everton have carried that group of players to within 30 seconds of the title?


Not on your Nelly!!