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I think the reason you though Torres was better in those seasons than Suarez had been recently was probably because we had a better team back then, it felt like we were challengers and for some of that time we were, at the moment the reality is that despite all Suarez has done, in the last couple of seasons we've been midtable and it's hard to get exited about what we're doing at the moment.Originally posted by Lee View PostDo you know what.
Even up until as recently as yesterday I always thought that Torres' first two seasons eclipsed what Suarez has done so far.
Maybe I was lying to myself for all this time. I dunno. I watched more football between 2007-09 than I do now so maybe that's the reason.
Tonight I sat there and it was the first time that I honestly thought that Suarez is by far and away a better player than Torres was. If Torres was £50m in 2011, then Suarez is £100m in the current market. At least. He's ****ing incredible.
The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.
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Luis Suarez: Liverpool is home
31st Jan 2013 - Latest News
Luis Suarez has reiterated his desire to remain at Liverpool for a 'very long time' and revealed how the city feels like home.
Since his transfer from Ajax in January 2011 he has scored 43 goals in 84 appearances and he is the Barclays Premier League's second top goalscorer this season with 17.
Suarez - who signed a new contract in the summer - is eager to keep scoring goals in a Liverpool shirt for many years to come.
"I hope [to be at Liverpool] for a very long time because it's a massive club that kids dream about playing for," the 60-times Uruguay international told Liverpoolfc.com.
"I've been very proud to be at a club like Liverpool and to have made the decision to come here. In two years I've lived through some spectacular and very special moments that I will never, ever forget.
"There have been a few difficult times as well, but with the support of my family, the club and the fans, things have gone well for me.
"I do feel at home here. When I'm out and about, all I get is support and encouragement from the local people and that's very important, and when I come here to the club I feel like people have known me all my life. That also helps a great deal to making me feel so at home.
"I hope to be able to help out the team for as long as I possibly can while trying do something to make the club and the fans very happy."
Suarez was born fourth of seven brothers and learned to play football on the streets of Uruguay's third most populous city, Salto, before moving to the capital Montevideo.
At the age of 11 he had to decline an offer to attend a national team training camp because he could not afford football boots, but he would go on to earn international recognition at U20, U23 and senior level.
So how did his upbringing of street football prepare him for the Premier League?
"I don't know about that!" said Suarez. "It's a massive difference between street football in Uruguay and football in the Premier League.
"I think maybe I did pick up things playing in the street that maybe I wouldn't have learned playing on a proper pitch. They're different cultures and ways of life.
"It was a way of learning football that I do not regret for a minute. If anything, just the opposite. I'm grateful for all I learned there and I've got to where I am today partly thanks to all that."
While the adult Suarez never concedes an inch on the pitch, away from the gaze of the media and television cameras he enjoy a more serene existence.
"When I finish training I try and get home and always have lunch with my wife while our little girl is still in nursery," he said.
"Then we go and pick her up from nursery and we always like to try and have a walk or go to the park or somewhere she can play.
"Sometimes we go into town for a stroll round because I never have any problem, and that's why I feel very happy here."Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
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I get what most are saying about not getting too attached to a player since we were all let down by Torres but I really feel Suarez is cut from a different cloth.
There was always a cold side to Torres where Suarez seems much more genuine in his affection for the club.
With all the crap he has been through and is still going through,I believe he has felt the support and loyalty shown to him.
I am london born and bred but the Scouse Community and the people I have met from there are pretty unique in the way they back their own and stick together.
He seems very humble and familly orientated and probably feels settled in a place which is great not only for himself but his young familly as well.
Never say never and tbh if we can't get into the champions league and put him on the stage his undoubted talent deserves to be at and if he did choose to leave I don't think anyone should stand in his way or begrudge him that.
The way Torres left was out of order I believe and I just can't see Suarez doing it that way. I remember when he signed for us he went back Ajax and thanked the supporters on the pitch at a packed out stadium.
Torres didn't even acknowledge us.-----------------------------------------------
'Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple.'
Bill Shankly.
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Suárez seems to say a lot more about Liverpool than Torres did.
What I remember of Torres is that people used to read a lot into what were far vaguer statements and actions. The armband thing was a classic example of it. "Proved he was a Red" - nah. You can get away with it in a song but people took it literally, they actually believed it because they wanted to..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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There's a Liverpool FC in Montevideo. At a push, we'll relocate there.Originally posted by Neil Young View PostSuárez seems to say a lot more about Liverpool than Torres did.
What I remember of Torres is that people used to read a lot into what were far vaguer statements and actions. The armband thing was a classic example of it. "Proved he was a Red" - nah. You can get away with it in a song but people took it literally, they actually believed it because they wanted to.Are we winning?
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Have to agree there. With Torres, people were always looking for reasons to love him and call him one of our own. Suarez seems happy to talk about most things. Still have it in the back of my mind that he would be off if someone like Barca or Bayern came calling for him.
That being said I dont think he would go to another team in this country. The abuse he gets from all corners of the country should have put pay to that.*Except Michael, who died.
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I actually believe what Suarez says though. He is a genuine guy who wears his heart on his sleeve. Has unbelievable passion when he plays and he doesn't come across as a hypocrite. I loved Torres but the guy made quite a few comments where you were never convinced that he'd stick around long-term.
I think Suarez will and I believe next season we will really kick on and have a decent chance of Top 4. If we make it, I think he'll stay
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Makes it more galling that he is forced play with utter **** like Downing and endure crap performers from the rest of the team. It's what prompted Gerrard to almost leave for Chelsea.
I have high hopes for a front three of Suarez, Sturridge and Coutinho but we need more athleticism and strength in midfield and less **** ups in defence and goal.
We could be real contenders with players like Suarez, Coutinho and Henderson on fire.
****ing sort it out Rodgers otherwise we'll lose another exceptional player and **** all chance of getting another one.Was muß, das muß.
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I thought it was Parry being on holiday in the Carribean with his mobile off and not sorting a new deal for Gerrard that almost made him leave!Originally posted by foresterbloke View PostMakes it more galling that he is forced play with utter **** like Downing and endure crap performers from the rest of the team. It's what prompted Gerrard to almost leave for Chelsea.
I have high hopes for a front three of Suarez, Sturridge and Coutinho but we need more athleticism and strength in midfield and less **** ups in defence and goal.
We could be real contenders with players like Suarez, Coutinho and Henderson on fire.
****ing sort it out Rodgers otherwise we'll lose another exceptional player and **** all chance of getting another one.
Rodgers is buying the players to play with Suarez who can make a difference and give him more support. You can't put tripe like Downing at his door
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