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    Originally posted by RedReet View Post
    Not sure, but Barclay was on SSN saying he fully supports the Mails campaign to make an example of Suarez and he hopes they get the justice they deserve.
    Patrick Barclay you mean...who got ditched by the Times and compared Suarez to a drug dealer selling drugs to kids outside school gates on radio yesterday?

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      Originally posted by dom9 View Post
      Of all the articles posted above, I thought his was the weakest.

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        Originally posted by G View Post
        I don't think he's a particularly good journalist.

        When he was at the Echo, people liked him because he was perceived to be a reliable source of information and he stuck up the for the club.

        When he was at the NOTW, people disliked him because he was perceived to be an unreliable source of information and he got stuck into the club, plus he worked for the Sunday Sun.

        Now he is at the Telegraph, people are more ambivalent towards him.

        I guess people often judge football journos by how often they agree with their own opinions, rather than the quality of writing, investigation, interpretation, analysis and all the other stuff you should judge journalists by.
        Oh I don't know.

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          It's all very odd this apparent u-turn in the media.

          Ian Herbert is - as usual - spot on, but I'm sure The Mirror has fickled itself into knots.

          Carragher's article is decent but surprised it's in there after the headline the Daily Mail parped t'other day.

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            Originally posted by dom9 View Post
            I guess people often judge football journos by how often they agree with their own opinions, rather than the quality of writing, investigation, interpretation, analysis and all the other stuff you should judge journalists by.
            It's how a lot of people judge many things. It's certainly how George Osborne chose his experts on economic policy.

            It's good to be aware of the tendency, we're none of us immune.
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            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



            May the Lord bless this post.

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              All I'll say is he has a better reputation with the journos I got to know, both as a writer and a source of reliable info, than another Liverpudlian journo who is held in much higher esteem by most fans.
              Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                I don't think he's a particularly good journalist.

                When he was at the Echo, people liked him because he was perceived to be a reliable source of information and he stuck up the for the club.

                When he was at the NOTW, people disliked him because he was perceived to be an unreliable source of information and he got stuck into the club, plus he worked for the Sunday Sun.

                Now he is at the Telegraph, people are more ambivalent towards him.

                I guess people often judge football journos by how often they agree with their own opinions, rather than the quality of writing, investigation, interpretation, analysis and all the other stuff you should judge journalists by.
                Yeah I'd go along with that. Your assessment of his article was spot on too.

                Good work Dom

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                  Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                  It's how a lot of people judge many things. It's certainly how George Osborne chose his experts on economic policy.

                  It's good to be aware of the tendency, we're none of us immune.
                  True, true.
                  Oh I don't know.

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                    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                    All I'll say is he has a better reputation with the journos I got to know, both as a writer and a source of reliable info, than another Liverpudlian journo who is held in much higher esteem by most fans.
                    That's interesting.
                    Oh I don't know.

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                      Originally posted by Muddled View Post
                      It's all very odd this apparent u-turn in the media.

                      Ian Herbert is - as usual - spot on, but I'm sure The Mirror has fickled itself into knots.

                      Carragher's article is decent but surprised it's in there after the headline the Daily Mail parped t'other day.
                      Yes, it's interesting but difficult to know why it's happened. Perhaps the club really has got its PR act together. Or maybe commonsense has broken out like measles. Or maybe it's just a useful way to keep the story going, stoke the controversy by switching angles, talking up one side, then the other. Maybe there's an influence of social media.

                      I imagine they all play a part.

                      But look - the Mail ran with the "dirty scum" line, Carragher had a piece published and now it seems to have changed line. Coincidence?

                      Does Carra 'write' regularly for the Mail or was it a one-off?
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                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                      May the Lord bless this post.

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                        Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                        All I'll say is he has a better reputation with the journos I got to know, both as a writer and a source of reliable info, than another Liverpudlian journo who is held in much higher esteem by most fans.
                        Who? Jenkins?
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                        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                        May the Lord bless this post.

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                          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                          Yes, it's interesting but difficult to know why it's happened. Perhaps the club really has got its PR act together. Or maybe commonsense has broken out like measles. Or maybe it's just a useful way to keep the story going, stoke the controversy by switching angles, talking up one side, then the other. Maybe there's an influence of social media.

                          I imagine they all play a part.

                          But look - the Mail ran with the "dirty scum" line, Carragher had a piece published and now it seems to have changed line. Coincidence?

                          Does Carra 'write' regularly for the Mail or was it a one-off?
                          It certainly would be beneficial to the club to offer up Carra to write something for them.
                          *Except Michael, who died.

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                            Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                            That's interesting.
                            Are we talking about Bascombe and Barrett here?

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                              Originally posted by Pablo1981 View Post
                              Are we talking about Bascombe and Barrett here?
                              Bascombe + (Barrett or Evans)
                              Oh I don't know.

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                                Originally posted by Pablo1981 View Post
                                Are we talking about Bascombe and Barrett here?
                                I hope it's Evans but I took it as Barrett.

                                Interesting.

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