Originally posted by Philgas
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If you pickup a red card during friendly matches they carry on in to the season, don't they?
IF that's the case, they should also be used to reduce the number of banned matches.Comment
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How can they stop him. If he serves his ban they can't prove he's trying to escape his punishment because he isn't escaping his punishment, he's serving it.Originally posted by Shackanory View Post
It's up to his club what they do with their players. Loan him somewhere that plays during the summer, serve the ban there, play a few games for that club then come back to us raring to go.
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Yeah but they were trying to have him play games in the Fa jurisdiction. When they realised he was banned in the lower leagues too they loaned him to France only to be caught by it there too. Point being no matter where he went, his ban went with him which is ideal for us if we loan him to a summer league team.Originally posted by AnfieldForever View Post
Serve the ban when we have no games anyway, play some games with that team to get fit then come back to us for the start of the league.Comment
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It's the FA. They'll fist **** him to Timbuktu. They'll probably say he has to be banned for 10 matches and has to stay banned for ten matches even if he goes to another team.Originally posted by G View PostRome wasn't built in a day, but it wasn't built by the apprentice either.Comment
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As it stands he's banned for 10 games in any domestic league, so let him serve it in one that has more then 10 games to play before August.Originally posted by Shackanory View PostComment
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Apparantley was discussing this with my best friend , he's 99.999 % certain he will have to serve his ban completely regardless of if someone else signs him ( loan or permanent) ( home or abroad ) reckons it will be late sept/ early oct.....
SORRY NO LINK
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So they play over the summer in Uruguay then?Hello mert.Comment
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Sorry for my Input fivex ... Was just quoting what my friends interpretation of it was
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The league of Ireland plays through the summer, the Russian league starts in late July. Would still miss some of our games in Russia though.
I don't know if any other leagues play summer football.Comment
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USA and Brazil are summer Leagues too aren't they?The times they are a changin'.Comment
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I took a guess as it would look less suspect than picking a random league like Norway.Originally posted by Fivex View Post
Turns out they do or, as they have only played 9 games, certainly seem to do so
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Yeah so Uruguay would make the most sense. I doubt it matters though cos the chances of anyone at the club thinking of it are likely to be slim
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DOUBLE STANDARD FA's success in reducing Wayne Rooney's Euro 2012 ban will open up a can of worms
Success: the FA won their campaign to have Wayne Rooney's three-match ban reduced to two
By Telegraph staff and agencies2:12PM GMT 09 Dec 2011
Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp has followed Kenny Dalglish's lead in accusing the Football Association of double standards over their campaign to get Wayne Rooney's Euro 2012 ban reduced.
Rooney's suspension for next summer's tournament was cut from three matches to two at a Uefa hearing in Switzerland on Thursday.
Redknapp thinks the FA's stance is hypocritical as he is sure that had the Manchester United player lashed out in a similar manner to his kick at Montenegro's Miodrag Dzudovic in a domestic game, the 26 year-old would be suspended for three matches and an appeal might have brought even more.
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Redknapp, the bookmakers' favourite to succeed Fabio Capello as England coach, said: ''In all honesty it was a three-match ban for violent conduct.
''You can look at it and say it wasn't that violent, but it doesn't matter. If you cuff someone, you get a three-match ban. Those are the rules.
''If you appealed it (domestically), it would be a frivolous appeal and you would probably get four games if you went to the FA.''
They are similar comments to those expressed by Liverpool manager Dalglish yesterday, and Redknapp now expects the FA to be besieged with appeals for domestic red cards.
''For them to get it from three to two, it opens up a can of worms,'' he said.
''There will be clubs appealing against bans and they will want to know why they aren't getting it cut from three to two for similar situations.
''People will look at it and think, 'Hang on, the FA have gone and appealed against his (Rooney's) red, why can't we?'
''From England's point of view, I'm pleased to see him get two because he's that important to England, but in all honesty, the rules are supposed to be the rules and they have not been adhered to in this situation.''
So, once again, the FA find themselves on the back foot.
Yesterday, they attempted to clarify their own position and have done the same again today.
Essentially, there is a significant difference in the manner in which Uefa and the FA deal with discipline.
Whereas Uefa prefer to offer guidance to their disciplinary body, and a sliding scale of punishments, the FA lays down set sanctions, partly due to the time constraints brought about by the huge number of games they must govern.
Had the Rooney incident occurred in a domestic game, he would have known instantly he faced a three-game ban for violent conduct.
However, such are Uefa's rules that when he was shown the red card in Podgorica, Rooney was left facing a minimum one-match suspension, with the likelihood that it would be increased to two or three.
As this punishment did not cover friendlies, and as England had avoided the Euro 2012 play-offs, the first match affected was the Three Lions' opening group game against France in Donetsk on June 11.
Under such circumstances, the FA, whose twin functions are administering disciplinary matters and running the England team, felt they were duty-bound to try to reduce the suspension Rooney faced.
They succeeded in that aim yesterday, partly because Capello admitted he made a mistake not taking Rooney, who had suffered off-field problems involving his father and uncle, off at half-time.
''It is important that people understand that amongst the many duties of the FA we have responsibility for the England team and also, separately, to oversee the domestic game's regulatory function,'' said FA chairman David Bernstein.
''Our philosophy for the national team is clear. We will run this along the same lines and with the same focus and commitment as any football club in this country. Our fans would expect no less.
''To achieve this we will fully support our manager and our players.
''This is simply what we have sought to achieve in reducing Wayne Rooney's suspension. I am very pleased that we have been successful in this appeal.
"'The FAs disciplinary department has stated, from the outset, that the domestic regulatory process is different to that of Uefa's.
''In the case of Wayne Rooney we have been well and independently advised and have followed proper UEFA process throughout.
''Our management and players respect that domestic disciplinary decisions of he FA are made independently of matters relating to the English national team.''
At least Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson is happy.
''It is no problem for me,'' said the Scot, countering suggestions that he was not interested in the well-being of England's national team.
''I am pleased for Wayne Rooney and England. It does give them a better chance.''
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