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Not sure really.........TBH the guts of it are as reported in earlier translations, so it's about as clear as before IMO. Its expanded out of course, but not to a degree where it puts a different angle on things.
There has to be a clear line between what's actually being reported, and what theories on message boards twist the reports into.
Kind of works both ways......he media's need for a headline, Suarez taking responsibility for what he says, and above all, what we as fans think it all means.
A BBC article talks about his accusation of not being able to go into his garden as being absolutely false but based on this translation he is talking about being able to go to the park with his daughter.
Typical **** journalism of the Internet era, writing articles based on other people's articles which are based on others because they are too lazy and cheap to go to the original data and check what is actually being said. With modern journalism the first interpretation of an event becomes the fact instead of the actual event.
Liverpool Echo @LivEchoLFC
#Suarez latest - Reds will fight to keep striker, no £40m buyout clause, any bid must top Torres £50m to be considered. Story to come
A BBC article talks about his accusation of not being able to go into his garden as being absolutely false but based on this translation he is talking about being able to go to the park with his daughter.
Typical **** journalism of the Internet era, writing articles based on other people's articles which are based on others because they are too lazy and cheap to go to the original data and check what is actually being said. With modern journalism the first interpretation of an event becomes the fact instead of the actual event.
If we keep hating great players because they leave us, we are going to be doing a lot of hating.
Not sure about how he is engineering this move, but I think the club should keep him no matter what, tell him he owes the club and the fans one more season. Get us top four and go with our blessing.
The worry is that we have become a selling club, and selling Suarez means no top 4 next year, I'm absolutely certain of that. Forget the way we played in the last 4 weeks, it was typical LFC. We had nothing to play for, no pressure on the players and they perform. Any time the pressure was on this season, one man led the line. Suarez is one of those very rare players who can turn a tight game to our advantage. No way we can say that about Coutinho or Sturridge yet. People forget Coutinho has not shown it against any top team yet, he was invisible again Chelsea. Losing Suarez, we lose that slight edge in games and become a team of decent players like most of the teams between 5th and 13th. Sure, we'll have 60m in the bank from sales of Carroll and Luis, but what two 30m game changing players are coming to Liverpool with no CL? I can't think of one player for that price that will come in an be able to provide the edge that Suarez gives us.
This club desperately needs CL to keep up. A further season without CL does us incredible harm, not only in revenue terms, but in terms of attracting the top players. Rodgers can have all the money in the world, it's not going to convince proven winners to LFC. The 45m or so we get for Luis is peanuts compared to the long term effects of being out of the CL.
With him we have a real chance next season of making it. If he still wants to go after that, at least he leaves us in the CL, able to attract top players with the 45m we would still get for him next year.
Money in the bank this year is pointless, fourth will be further away.
Exactly this, we will learn a lot about our owners intentions and ambitions from this situation. We should do exactly as you say, tell him that he owes us one more year and to get us into the champions league.
Liverpool Echo @LivEchoLFC
#Suarez latest - Reds will fight to keep striker, no £40m buyout clause, any bid must top Torres £50m to be considered. Story to come
Sounds stupid, but I'd rather get £40m now which gives us enough time to spend it wisely than to receive £50m on the last day of the transfer window and panic buy like last time . I think the point I'm trying to make is we really need to set a deadline for the Suarez saga to be over.
Sounds stupid, but I'd rather get £40m now which gives us enough time to spend it wisely than to receive £50m on the last day of the transfer window and panic buy like last time . I think the point I'm trying to make is we really need to set a deadline for the Suarez saga to be over.
I think the club has learned a great deal from past transfers, I don't think we'll be making those mistakes again.
He's worth more than any money we can get for him because no one as good as him will come to us at the moment and the owners are establishing a pay structure that they aren't going to break to buy in a mercenary that's willing to sacrifice Champions League for the money.
We should do the same as City did with Tevez. Make him stay, he loves his football too much and he won't take it the wrong way if we refuse to sell him in my opinion. If he stays we will have a world class player that will play with 100% commitment whatever has happened in the summer.
As Vonk has said, he will be the difference between getting top 4 and not.
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