Evra accused Suarez of calling him a "******" multiple times (Evra was adamant about this). Not negro, nor negrito. Suarez admitted to calling him negro once. Unless using the colour of Evra's skin as a perjorative (ie Black Cunt), calling him "black" (ie negro) is not racist.
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I questioned that recently. Very strange indeed.Originally posted by dom9 View PostIs it me, or are some of you changing your tune iro the Suarez racism thing? The generally accepted view on here at least was that he was naive to use the language he did due to cultural differences, and that we was harshly persecuted by all and sundry as a result.
Today, the general consensus apart from Arn is that his behaviour was indeed unacceptable, and he was being racist.
Quite funny too, because I thought the evidence that those calling him a racist are using (ie the FA hearing) concluded with words along the lines of them believing he’s not actually a racist.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
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Erm, wtf.Originally posted by Paddy View PostI would say it behind their backs to my white friends.
At the end of the day we've moved on as a society to the point where it really doesn't matter a toss what colour someone is. Saying the word Negro isn't racist, describing someone as Negro isn't racist but I'm pretty damn sure saying 'Hey, Negro' was Suarez doing his level best to wind Evra up and was racist.
Dom, anyone who called him on it at the time and said it was irrelevent whether he said Negro or Negrito were quickly put in their places and told we didn't get it. I remember being ripped in to by Nicey who had loads of South American friends of course.
Originally posted by Norbs View PostEvra clearly heard something that really disturbed him, his body language tells you that. He approached the ref immediately and the ref looked like he was acting on what had been said to him by Evra.
The illusion that Evra sat in the dressing room wondering how he could get back at Suarez is plainly wrong. He was perhaps unclear on protocol or maybe thought he'd wait and ask his boss how he should deal with the matter.
The best outcome here is that something was lost in translation but Evra clearly thought he'd heard something. Correctly or incorrectlyAnd for a laugh, not so far fetched after all...Originally posted by Norbs View Post
He should've let his football do the talking and deserves all that's coming to him if he used ANY reference to race regardless of this bollocks about it meaning something different in Uruguay
We always knew he was a bit daft but this is disappointing (EDIT: I should've added 'if true' and not assumed that folk would know that that's what I meant)
Originally posted by Vermilion View PostWhy couldn't he have just bitten off Evra's nose instead!
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Originally posted by ashey View PostEvra accused Suarez of calling him a "******" multiple times (Evra was adamant about this). Not negro, nor negrito. Suarez admitted to calling him negro once. Unless using the colour of Evra's skin as a perjorative (ie Black Cunt), calling him "black" (ie negro) is not racist.
Oi, black/negro, I'm not a racist, ok.
Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 years
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stop reliving the racist debate. STOP IT... STOP IT NOW...
anyways, we need to be firm with this ****er.
tell him to hand in a transfer request and we will let him go for 40m.
if he doesnt hand in a transfer request the fee will be 60m.
this way if he hands in the request we will save 50% [approx] of his outstanding wages, and at 100k a week for 3-4 years, maybe an extra 10m saved.
this would then be the equivalent of selling him for 50m. it also means we dont get bitched right at the end of the window and have no time to replace and strengthen the squad.
if he goes we need another main striker, a DM and a ready to go CB.removing all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.
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Suarez is annoying
I love watching him play football for Liverpool, that bit is brilliant, but I am sick and tired of the circus that goes with it.
"He's a racist" :yawn:
"Its a cultural thing" :yawn:
"He's lovely off the pitch" :yawn:
"He's just misunderstood"
"He's a cannibal"
"He's a dirty cheating diver"
"He's just giving back what he gets dished out to him every week"
"He's betraying the club"
"He has no loyalty"
"He's just another mercenary"
I think that sums up just about everything, he's all of that and that's what the problem is. All in all, he's a pain in the arse.
He's the Premier League panto villain and its boring as ****.
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His black (am i allowed to say that?) grandad and his mixed race(am i allowed to say that) parent must hate their mixed race (am i allowed to say that) racist progeny for using a term wrongly deemed racist in england if said in english but actually said in spanish during a verbal spat with a black (am i allowed to say that) frenchman (and youtube user of the real "N" word he originally accused him of using)who used a derogatory racist term for south american and a misogynistic term about his sister's genitslia.Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
Oi, black/negro, I'm not a racist, ok.
Shame on himGlass Half Full
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For Christ's sake, it's not about the term and whether it's a 'racist term'. It's not that difficult to grasp is it?Originally posted by fidget View PostHis black (am i allowed to say that?) grandad and his mixed race(am i allowed to say that) parent must hate their mixed race (am i allowed to say that) racist progeny for using a term wrongly deemed racist in england if said in english but actually said in spanish during a verbal spat with a black (am i allowed to say that) frenchman (and youtube user of the real "N" word he originally accused him of using)who used a derogatory racist term for south american and a misogynistic term about his sister's genitslia.
Shame on himTrey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 years
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All that post proves is that you're a ****ing idiot.Originally posted by fidget View PostHis black (am i allowed to say that?) grandad and his mixed race(am i allowed to say that) parent must hate their mixed race (am i allowed to say that) racist progeny for using a term wrongly deemed racist in england if said in english but actually said in spanish during a verbal spat with a black (am i allowed to say that) frenchman (and youtube user of the real "N" word he originally accused him of using)who used a derogatory racist term for south american and a misogynistic term about his sister's genitslia.
Shame on himA lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.
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