Luis Suárez

[baitman]

I really hope he goes - I'd rather not see him in the red of Liverpool again.

get ready for the "who is the biggest judas, A; suarez, or B; torres" thread

[saj]

get ready for the "who is the biggest judas, A; suarez, or B; torres" thread

Ha ha

Has he gone yet?

[baitman]

Ha ha

Has he gone yet?

its only a matter of when, not if.

once his agent gets the nod from madrid he will put in his transfer request [hopefully] and then go for 45m.

[Hustler]

He is Real Madrid bound... Time to move on

[Imy]

As in Muriel's wedding?

Yep, Muriel's wedding to replace waltzing Matilda

[Baracus]

I'm Glad that I said straight after the Evra incident that we should sell him and trouble follows him and it will get worse..I never warmed to him..his whole career he has acted like a womens parts to get his way. He's a great footballer but what separates him from the very best is his indiscipline on the pitch and with the ball. He's a bad maverick, sometimes they are great for the team if they play for the team, he does not.

[Lee]

The bearded Suarez reminds me of the short-and-dark-haired Torres.

[BigChief]

Is it me or is Suarez starting to pile on the pounds. I don't mean Enrique stylee. More like in an early overweight Zico version. I noticed how big he looked in that funny ad as well.

[Marina]

Ugh. I hate how this has all gone down. Suarez really deceived me. I'd wager to say he deceived most of us. There are only a few people who can really say they saw through him the whole time. He makes me think back on Torres and want to kiss him. Which is absurd. But still. Part of me always thought Torres was attractive in his weird androgynous way, so there's that aspect too

Leaves a bad taste in my mouth all this. And not because I've had a few to drink!

[The_weatherman]

Is it me or is Suarez starting to pile on the pounds. I don't mean Enrique stylee. More like in an early overweight Zico version. I noticed how big he looked in that funny ad as well.

Yup, always said he was a fat, toothie, untrustworthy *******.

[MrMichael]

This one is interesting - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-advisers.html

Liverpool confidence over Luis Suárez's contract hints at confusion from Uruguayan's advisers

Liverpool seem very confident about the £40 million-plus-one clause in Luis Suárez’s contract, and it is entirely possible that the striker, or those advising him, have misunderstood the technical terms of the agreement and/or their effect.Normally, a player at one English club cannot speak to another without written consent until after the third Saturday in May in the last year of his playing contract.

But players are able to negotiate all sorts of clauses into a contract, from straight release clauses to those which allow them to speak to other clubs earlier.

So Liverpool could have written into the contract that if an offer comes in over £40 million, then Suárez has the right to talk to the club involved, in this case Arsenal.

That would allow Arsenal to determine whether he actually wants to join them and whether they are able to agree personal terms.

But that does not mean that Liverpool will agree or be obliged to actually transfer him or terminate his playing contract early.

What Suárez and his agent may have done is got confused between the Spanish system and the English system.

If Suárez had been playing for, say, Atlético Madrid and he wanted a release from his contract (as is normal in Spain), he would have written in that he has the right to buy himself out for say £40 million. The buying club then pays him to do that and the payment is effectively redirected to Atlético. In England, transfer fees are paid directly between clubs.

It is possible that Liverpool were very specific with Suárez and his representatives when they agreed his most recent contract.

A lot of it is to do with the drafting, which has to be very precise. For example, you could try to write into your contract that it would be foreshortened by, say, two years in the event that your club does not qualify for Champions League football.

However, clubs do not like the idea of players become free agents at the end of a particular season, so they could try to make the release clause conditional on a transfer bid coming in on specific terms above a certain amount.

This is where the drafting becomes quite complicated and you need to be careful about how it is constructed. Release clauses were pretty unusual in English football 10 or more years ago.

If you go back pre-2004, the Premier League money was less. As the amount of on- and off-the-pitch income has gone up, and as clubs’ desire to employ a player at the peak of his form has increased, release clauses haver become more and more common. I have seen it quite a lot over the last few years but I tend to deal with particularly high-value players.

Footballers’ contracts do not have too many odd clauses – unlike those in the music business. What you sometimes get are football versions of moral turpitude clauses, especially where the player might have a particular history.

Occasionally, there are provisions for houses, for payment of rent for an extended period, signing-on fees, and customised loyalty bonuses.

There are also now image-rights structures, how they blend in, how you apportion image rights between the club and player. But nothing particularly fancy.

Graham Shear, LDR Partner and Head of Sport at international law firm Berwin Leighton Paisner, worked on the Ashley Cole tapping-up case in 2006.

[MrMichael]

Oh, and the other media development this morning - having whipped this apparent transfer thing up into a frenzy, time for the press to start pointing out what a nasty man he is again

Liverpool deserve better from Luis Suarez after standing by their man through thick and thin

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-deserve-better-luis-suarez-2086752

Liverpool have been forced to value Luis Suarez at £50millionbecause the striker does not understand the price of loyalty.

Only a few weeks ago as he started agitating for a move from Anfield , Suarez claimed he needed to go abroad to escape the negative reception he received at Premier League grounds and from the media spotlight he felt was being unfairly shone on him.

Now, Suarez's determination to open talks with Arsenal realises a nightmare scenario for Liverpool who face losing their best player to one of their chief rivals for a Champions League spot.

Brendan Rodgers and the Reds could be forgiven for expecting much more from the Uruguayan after resolutely supporting him through his various crimes and misdemeanours at Anfield.

In Suarez's two-and-a-half seasons at Liverpool, he has been suspended for a total of 19 games.

The club tarnished their good names around the world by repeatedly backing him when he racially abused Patrice Evra.

Liverpool shrugged off his indiscipline and rewarded him with a new £120,000-a-week contract last August.

Again they stood by him when he inexplicably bit Branislav Ivanovic in April, landing himself a 10-match ban.

Yet, here he is, seemingly keen to join Arsenal.

Little wonder then that he looked so sheepish when the fans lauded him in his first Reds appearance since biting Ivanovic in yesterday's 2-0 friendly win over Melbourne Victory at the MCG.

The South American was muted when he set up Iago Aspas for Liverpool's second goal in stoppage time after coming on as a substitute.

In a futile final attempt to persuade Suarez to stay, Rodgers urged him to remember the way he has been treated by the club's fans.

"The support he has received from the supporters and the people of the city of Liverpool has been unrivalled.

"In this period of time he's missed a lot of games for the club through various reasons. The people have stood by him, like a son, and really looked after him.

"Whatever happens in the coming weeks, that will be in his mind because it's something you can never forget."

To emphasise his point, Rodgers praised the 95,446 fans crammed into the MCG yesterday for their rousing rendition of 'You'll Never Walk Alone' before he addressed Suarez's position.

"It'd be disrespectful to start with anything other than the crowd," he said.

"They can be very proud of what they put on here tonight. The 'You'll Never Walk Alone' at the beginning was a real tear-jerker."

Suarez did not appear to appreciate the fans' backing and did not over-exert himself during his warm-up before his introduction as a 72nd-minute substitute against Melbourne.

Although he posed for photos and signed some autographs for fans at the end, he appeared to be going through the motions and did not look particularly happy.

That was disappointing and the fans deserved much better for the support and loyalty they have shown him over the last couple of years.

[Leyton388]

Put up or shut up! Rodgers' Suarez warning for Gunners

25 Jul 2013 00:01

LFC manager warns Arsenal to bid true value or stop unsettling Reds' star man

Brendan Rodgers has warned Arsenal to 'put up or shut up' in their pursuit of Liverpool FC striker Luis Suarez .

The Reds boss insists the Gunners must significantly increase their bid of £40million plus £1 to have any hope of landing the Uruguayan.

Rodgers, who recently said he ranks Suarez in the same class as Edinson Cavani who joined Paris St-Germain from Napoli for £55million, dismissed suggestions that the Londoners' latest offer had triggered a release clause in the player's contract

Suarez, who made his first Liverpool appearance for three months in yesterday's 2-0 win over Melbourne Victory, was scheduled to fly with the squad from Australia to Thailand today for the final leg of the tour.

“For me, it is work as normal,” Rodgers said.

“There is no change for me or for Luis. He is a paid player at Liverpool Football Club so he just needs to get on with getting himself fit.

“That’s how it is. Until somebody tells me something different that is what all my concentration will be on.

“If Arsenal want the player then they have to produce the value for the player.

“There was an offer a few weeks ago of £35million and two weeks later it is now £40million and £1. I don’t think it is anywhere near the value of what he is worth.

“It is two-fold really. A player may want to go, but then somebody has to pay the value or worth of that player.”

Arsenal, whose current record transfer fee is the £15million they spent on Andrey Arshavin in 2009, expect Suarez to try to force the issue by telling Liverpool he wants to join the Gunners.

However, the Reds have no intention of granting him that wish unless there is a suitably attractive offer on the table.

Suarez’s agent Pere Guardiola believed a bid of more than £40million would allow his client to move on but Liverpool have always insisted that is not the case.

Asked if the Reds simply had to inform Suarez of offers in excess of that figure, Rodgers said: “Absolutely. That's it. There is nothing more than that.”

Rodgers discussed Arsenal's new bid with Suarez prior to yesterday's game in front of a crowd of more than 95,000.

The manager is confident last season's top scorer will continue to apply himself for Liverpool while this summer-long saga continues.

“It may be a distraction, but players are paid enough money now to produce for their clubs and he just has to keep his professionalism, which he has done,” Rodgers said.

“He was okay to go on to the pitch and his concentration was fine.

“I am not worried about him (in that sense), but there will be no games played at Liverpool. He is part of the group and he knows the standard you have to meet at this club, on and off the field.

“After a long flight and then double training sessions Monday and Tuesday and then the game he's just a wee bit weary.”

Liverpool aren't prepared to allow the uncertainty surrounding Suarez to drag on into August, potentially damaging the start of their Premier League campaign.

Asked if there would be a cut-off point for the Reds to even consider offers, Rodgers said: “Yes and that period will come soon.”

Philippe Coutinho and Kolo Toure both missed yesterday's game due to minor injuries but could return in Sunday's match against Thailand in Bangkok.

Liverpool FC manager Brendan Rodgers in Luis Suarez transfer warning to Arsenal - Liverpool Echo

[Leyton388]

Can't believe he's agitating for a move to ****ing Arsenal. Real Madrid fair enough, maybe even Chelsea or City, but Arsenal?! The team that's won **** all in 8 years and is struggling to hang on to 4th place every season?

It would be a complete madness to sell him to Arsenal, even for £55M.

Sit Luis down and just tell him straight that there is no way in hell he's going there. Selling him to Arsenal is a worst case scenario for us and just can't be allowed to happen. I think deep down Luis can see why.

Arsenal and Spurs are our biggest rivals for that last CL spot and it would be insane for us to sell our best player to one of them.

I just can't be allowed to happen.

[saj]

I hear you Leyton. But to be honest, I never want him to play for Liverpool again given all his lies. Arsenal are welcome to him