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Yeah obviously, it's not enough.Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon -
I agree with Shaggy. We always dismiss things we dont want to be true or find a reason to do so. It's pretty obvious Suarez's people are leaking this information
Kenneth, the club have been pretty much to the point. They have been specific on what the clause is for and even JWH commented on it. Obv Suarez's people will disagree. We dont need to arbitrate with him or his people. He needs to be told to honour his contract and play football. If he doesnt want to comply, stop the games, request a transfer and **** offComment
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Some more quotes in Telegraph from Rodgers. ****ing brilliant ones too. Cant be ****ed to paste off phone though
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You'd absolutely hope the lawyers and club have this clause properly drafted. There would have been careful consideration of it before it was agreed you would hope. What I find strange is that usually a clause is put into a contract to protect one or other of the sides position or rights. Why on earth would Suarez's people seek to negotiate a clause where he has a right merely to be informed of a bid over £40 million? What good is that to them? What kind of a right is that?Originally posted by Chazza View Post
While utter speculation they (Suarez camp) must feel that the right is worth having and is at least capable of being argued as constituting a release clause. If a court was looking at the clause while they will read it literally they may also look at the intent of it and I don't think it can be ruled out that a court might find it to be more than a right to be informed, as after all why the hell would you negotiate a clause that gives you effectively nothing.
I can see this being argued out past the transfer window, as Suarez could argue he was prevented illegally by Liverpool from moving during the window. After all he is banned for first 6 games of season so he may as well go to court until Mid September as club's position gets gradually weaker. He won't be doing much else
Or else he might just go to Madrid still
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Luis Suarez's Liverpool to Arsenal transfer case could end up in a Premier League arbitration hearing
Luis Suárez’s contract dispute with Liverpool could end up in a Premier League arbitration hearing if the striker persists in trying to force through a move to Arsenal.
By Ben Rumsby
10:30PM BST 25 Jul 2013
Suárez and his advisers remain at loggerheads with Liverpool over the interpretation of a clause in the deal he signed almost a year ago which Arsenal triggered this week by bidding £40,000,001 for the 26-year-old.
Liverpool have rejected the offer but have given Suárez permission to discuss personal terms with Arsenal, insisting his contract requires them to do no more than that.
Suárez, on the other hand, believes Arsenal have triggered a formal release clause that gives Liverpool no choice but to sell him.
If Liverpool refuse to back down, Suárez’s first recourse would be to the Premier League, whose rule T.30 allows it to arbitrate in disputes between players and their clubs, including over transfers.
It would not be the first time Suárez has taken such a step, having lost a similar case in Holland while trying to move from Groningen to Ajax, where he ended up anyway.
The most notable case presided over by the Premier League also involved Liverpool, who in 2007 tried to sign Gabriel Heinze from Manchester United.
Heinze took United to arbitration, claiming they had given him written permission to pursue a transfer to another club. However, the panel decided that the letter in question did not constitute a binding agreement for United but only an ‘agreement to agree’ and thus did not constitute an obligation to sell the player.
The panel also agreed it should be interpreted in context of verbal discussion and the club’s policy of not transferring players to Liverpool.
The Premier League arbitrated in Charlie Adam’s 2010 dispute with Blackpool, ruling he could not terminate his contract over the non-
payment of a bonus despite finding in his favour over the unpaid sum.
Mario Balotelli was set to take Manchester City to an arbitration panel in December over a club fine before dropping the case at the last minute, while Swansea narrowly avoided being taken to arbitration by Neil Taylor, who was interested in a move to Newcastle before signing a new contract.
There is also the prospect of Liverpool making a formal complaint to the Premier League about Arsenal’s bid for Suárez. Contract clauses are usually confidential and Liverpool themselves were fined £20,000 in 2002 for making an illegal approach for Christian Ziege after meeting his precise Middlesbrough release clause.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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Funny how the players and Rodgers rate the owners but the fans dontComment
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Liverpool's Luis Suarez will be making a mistake if he joins Arsenal, says Brendan Rodgers
Brendan Rodgers has warned Luis Suárez he will be making a mistake if he joins Arsenal because Liverpool are a far bigger club.
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By Mark Ogden, Melbourne
10:30PM BST 25 Jul 2013
The Liverpool manager said Suárez’s desire to move to Arsenal “does not add up”, even though the London club can offer Champions League football next season.
Suárez arrived in Bangkok with the Liverpool squad on Thursday night with his Anfield future still in doubt following his return to the team with a substitute appearance against Melbourne Victory in Australia on Wednesday.
Arsenal’s determination to sign the 26-year-old has been underlined by their club-record offer of £40,000,001 for the player, a sum for which they and Suárez’s advisers believe Liverpool are obliged to sell him.
But Liverpool deny there is any such contractual obligation and Rodgers retains the backing of Liverpool’s American owners to repel Arsène Wenger’s attempts to sign the former Ajax striker. Suárez, who has previously insisted Real Madrid were the club he most wanted to join, is now keen to talk to Arsenal, the difference to Liverpool being their participation in the Champions League.
But with more than 95,000 fans watching Liverpool play at the MCG in Melbourne, Rodgers claims that Suárez risks turning his back on one of the biggest clubs in the world.
“Would it be a mistake for Luis to leave Liverpool? Yes, 100 per cent,” Rodgers said. “I know what we are trying to build and grow here, so why would you swap Liverpool to go to Arsenal? I am not sure that it adds up to be honest.
“Don’t get me wrong, Arsenal has a wonderful history in its own right, but Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. I am sure Luis will have seen the sheer size and status of the club here [in Melbourne], so we’ll just see how it goes.”
While Rodgers and managing director Ian Ayre continue to reject the prospect of Suárez being sold, a bid in excess of £50 million for the player would test Liverpool’s resolve to keep a player who will miss the first six games of the new season as he serves the remainder of a 10-game suspension for biting Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic in April.
Rodgers believes, however, that the opportunity to be the driving force in Liverpool’s challenge to return to the Champions League could tempt Suárez to abandon his efforts to leave with three years left on his contract.
“We are not in the Champions League and haven’t been for a while now, but we have to step up to the challenge,” Rodgers said. “And we would love to have him [Suárez] to continue with the next phase.
“It is something to be given a team that is built around you. I made some big calls last year to make it work to suit his strengths and it is no coincidence he had a great season apart from the end bit.
“It is difficult for Luis, I understand that. If a team wants you, it can be difficult. But it is a situation we are in control of because he has three years left on his contract. Unless something changes, or there is an offer which is heavily increased, he is still very much a Liverpool player.
“And I can categorically say that the owners have been brilliant throughout this process. The board and club has stayed very strong. It is very simple. We don’t want to sell one of our best players.”
Suárez is expected to play again when Liverpool face a Thai XI in Bangkok on Sunday, despite an expectation at Arsenal that he will formally ask for a transfer in the coming days.
And Liverpool defender Glen Johnson echoed Rodgers’ comments by claiming it will be difficult for Suárez to turn his back on the club.
“You wouldn’t walk away from this club easily,” Johnson said. “We are building under Brendan. With the owners that we have now, you can see the foundations are there and everything is going the right way.
“If we can keep the players that we have got here, then everything looks promising. The members of staff, the players - we are all the same. We want to keep him here.”Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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Shaggy, put up the article from The Mirror by Lewis and Cross. It is a pearler. Suarez furious that we wont allow him to talk to Arsenal. Apparently we told his agent he could talk to anyone who bids over 35m regardless of amount in contract clause. Also refers to Spurs as 'Dithering Spurs'Comment
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Good post and great lurkingOriginally posted by hoppermcgrath View PostYou'd absolutely hope the lawyers and club have this clause properly drafted. There would have been careful consideration of it before it was agreed you would hope. What I find strange is that usually a clause is put into a contract to protect one or other of the sides position or rights. Why on earth would Suarez's people seek to negotiate a clause where he has a right merely to be informed of a bid over £40 million? What good is that to them? What kind of a right is that?
While utter speculation they (Suarez camp) must feel that the right is worth having and is at least capable of being argued as constituting a release clause. If a court was looking at the clause while they will read it literally they may also look at the intent of it and I don't think it can be ruled out that a court might find it to be more than a right to be informed, as after all why the hell would you negotiate a clause that gives you effectively nothing.
I can see this being argued out past the transfer window, as Suarez could argue he was prevented illegally by Liverpool from moving during the window. After all he is banned for first 6 games of season so he may as well go to court until Mid September as club's position gets gradually weaker. He won't be doing much else
Or else he might just go to Madrid still
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Liverpool eye Spurs target Roberto Soldado as replacement for Luis Suarez who wants future resolved in 48 hours
25 Jul 2013 22:30
By John Cross, Darren Lewis
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Liverpool have made Roberto Soldado their number one target to replace Luis Suarez, writes Darren Lewis and John Cross in Saitama.
The Reds are in a straight fight with dithering Spurs for Valencia’s £26million man as angry Suarez edges closer to a move to Arsenal. Liverpool have not yet made a bid to the Spain international’s club Valencia, but they are being helped by Spurs’ reluctance so far to meet his £26million asking price.
As reported by Mirror Sport, Spurs sent Technical Director Franco Baldini to Spain for talks over a £22million bid earlier this week but that was rejected.
Financially stricken Valencia want a deal done by August 3 for tax reasons.
Meanwhile, Suarez has told Liverpool he wants his future resolved in the next 48 hours.
The furious Uruguay striker held face-to-face talks with Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers yesterday after the club tried to block his £40million move to Arsenal.
Suarez made it clear to Rodgers, who is sticking by his £50m valuation, that he wants to leave Anfield and is keen to talk to Arsenal, and is believed to have labelled Rodgers "a big meanie".
The 26-year-old claims his agent Pere Guardiola was told by the club that he would be allowed to negotiate a move if an offer was made of more than £35m - irrespective of the clause in his contract.
And Suarez, who flew with the rest of the Liverpool squad from Australia to Thailand, is understood to have voiced his frustration at Arsene Wenger’s £40,000,001 bid being rejected.
The player is allowed to conduct talks with Arsenal and his advisers may consult lawyers if the dispute over his contract turns ugly.
However, Liverpool have been surprised by his desire to move to another Premier League club after claiming earlier in the season he wanted to leave England following bans for using a racist remark against Patrice Evra and biting Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic.
Suarez told Rodgers he still likes Liverpool, but simply wants to play for a club in the Champions League and Arsenal appear to be the only club in the running after Real Madrid let it be known they are no longer interested.
Suarez will be offered a five year deal worth £150,000-a-week but Wenger will still have money to spend on other players having trimmed the wage bill.
He maintains an interest in Marouane Fellaini but others deals may yet depend on Suarez as they look to get their first big one over the line as a sign of intent.Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’Comment
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Suarez making a big mistake if he left Liverpool for Arsenal - Rodgers
Brendan Rogers believes Luis Suarez would be making a mistake if he left Liverpool FC for Arsenal
By James Pearce | 25 Jul 2013 22:30
Brendan Rofgers believes Luis Suarez would be making a big mistake if he left Liverpool to join Arsenal.
The Reds boss, who is battling to keep hold of the prolific Uruguay striker, has questioned why anyone would want to quit Anfield and move to the Emirates.
Liverpool rejected an improved offer of £40million plus £1 from Arsenal on Tuesday with Rodgers insisting that figure is “significantly” short of their valuation of last season's 30-goal top scorer.
Suarez, who arrived in Thailand with the squad yesterday, has been informed that Liverpool won't consider granting him a move until there is a bid on the table which represents his true value.
Arsenal can offer Champions League football but Rodgers is trying to convince Suarez to snub their interest.
May 2013 - Luis Suarez: "Brendan Rodgers knows what I want. There are colleagues who understand my situation"
May 2013 - Luis Suarez: "I do not know if I am going and I do not know if I am staying"
May 2013 - Luis Suarez: "It is normal that it is impossible to say no to big teams for which one always dreams"
May 2013 - Luis Suarez: "Liverpool is a great club but it is difficult because of the harassment I get from the press over there"
May 2013 - LFC: "Luis Suarez is not for sale. The club remains supportive of Luis and expect him to honour his contract"
June 2013 - John Aldridge: "It’s rubbish to blame the press and I’d rather he was just honest about it"
June 2013 - Robbie Fowler: "Any side in the world with Suarez is a better team, so I hope he stays at Liverpool a long time"
June 2013 - Luis Suarez: "I’m South American and I think that’s the root of all this"
June 2013 - Luis Suarez: "If you need a change, you should listen to the player"
June 2013 - Jamie Carragher: "If the club were to keep him, I’m sure he would be as committed as ever"
June 2013 - Brendan Rodgers: "For me it’s quite simple. The club is in control of the situation"
June 2013 - Jamie Carragher: "He signed a contract last summer and he has a few years left and hopefully we can keep him"
July 2013 - Jan Molby: "The last thing you want is an unhappy player and Liverpool know that"
July 2013 - Luis Suarez: "In football you never know what is going to happen. A phone call can change everything"
Brendan Rodgers: "I'm in regular communication with him....LFC is more than a football club, this is a way of life"
July 2013 - James Pearce: "Knuckle down, score goals and all will be forgiven if not forgotten"
The Northern Irishman expects Liverpool to be competing with the Londoners at the top end of the Premier League this season and desperately wants Suarez around to lead the charge.
He said: “I know what we are trying to build and grow, so why would you swap Liverpool to go to Arsenal?
“I am not sure that it adds up to be honest. Arsenal has a wonderful history in its own right, but Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world.
“Okay, we might not be in the Champions League and haven’t been for a while now, but our competitors have grown around us and we have to step up to the challenge now.
“Would it be a mistake for Luis to leave? 100%. The team was built around Luis last season.
“I made some big calls to get the team to work in a way to suit his strengths and it is no coincidence he had a great season apart from the end bit. We would love to have him to continue the next phase.”
Liverpool were given another warm reception on their arrival in Bangkok for the final leg of their pre-season tour. Suarez is expected to line up against Thailand on Sunday before the squad return to the UK.
“It is difficult for Luis, I understand that,” Rodgers said.
“If a team wants you, it can be difficult, but I am not sure many teams will have done what we have done in the last couple of games. I am sure Luis will have seen the sheer size and status of the club on this trip.
“But it is not something we want to run on too long. It is something that can’t run on too long.”
Rodgers refused to be drawn on whether Suarez submitting a transfer request would force Liverpool's hand.
However, the manager praised the club's principal owner John W Henry and chairman Tom Werner for their hardline stance throughout the summer-long saga.
“Luis is under contract so I haven’t even thought about that (a transfer request),” Rodgers said.
The ECHO's James Pearce on the Luis Suarez transfer saga
“If a player tells you he really wants to go then you have to look at it.
“But it is a situation we are in control of because he has three years left on his contract. Unless something changes or there is an offer which is heavily increased, he is still very much a Liverpool player.
“I can categorically say the owners have been brilliant throughout this process. The board and club has stayed very strong. It is very simple - we don’t want to sell one of our top players.
“We will continue to work on improving our squad rather than breaking it up.”Comment
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John Cross is a cunt.Comment
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John Cross is an embarassment. ****ing cringeComment
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IMO it is the club that leak the details. Every leak make Suarez look bad and the club better.
Why would the Suarez camp leak stuffs like this that make him look bad?Stop the cyberhate
from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a 
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imo. Someone has been feeding them a trickle for a while now, making sure certain snippits of info are in the public domain.
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