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I’d like to believe that’s true (him staying), but even if we do qualify for CL, Louis is unlikely to think we will win it. Bale said one of the reasons he left for Madrid was because he didn’t just want to play in the CL, but he wants to win it. I’m sure Suarez feels the same. At his age, you wouldn’t blame him and that’s not even considering everything else that has went on that pointed to him leaving.
I was also watching an interview with him recently and he was really struggling with his English. Again it just reinforced my concerns as I’m sure he’s just thinking why should I be bothered with all this **** when I can move elsewhere when I can earn more money, win more trophies, speak the language and do everything else he used as an excuse to leave.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
Even if he does fininsh top scorer and I hope he will, those odds are terrible for a player at an unfancied club who was giving everybody else a massive headstart.
If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
I’d like to believe that’s true (him staying), but even if we do qualify for CL, Louis is unlikely to think we will win it. Bale said one of the reasons he left for Madrid was because he didn’t just want to play in the CL, but he wants to win it. I’m sure Suarez feels the same. At his age, you wouldn’t blame him and that’s not even considering everything else that has went on that pointed to him leaving.
We're not Spurs, we have European history. If we qualify for the CL we'll immediately start having much more success of the transfer front and we'll be in the running before long.
you put him up there with Messi & Ronaldo and look at the trophies they had won by his age.
Although maybe if he is finally maturing thay may work in our favour and he may decide being settled and happy is more important than winning trophies.
We are punching baove our weight by keeping a player like Suarez and can;t see that changing for a couple of years at least.
Yup. Got badly caught out waiting a few games in hoping someone would grab a few and push out. £25 e/w at 16/1 or 18/1 I forget exactly - 16 seems more memorable though
Even if he does fininsh top scorer and I hope he will, those odds are terrible for a player at an unfancied club who was giving everybody else a massive headstart.
For a top goalscorer its pretty decent bet actually - significantly better than Liverpool at 25/1 for the league which wasn't even offered.
The real value in the higher odds is 1/4 odds for top 4 finish. If he doesn't go in Jan he was a great bet for top 4 missing the first 5 games or not!
On Saturday evening, Luis Suarez will come face to face with the club he could have joined. It was never quite clear why he wanted to go to Arsenal. If he craved Champions League football, there were other clubs who had a better record in the competition. If he was sick of the English press and their intrusion into his family life, it made no sense to move to the city where their newspapers are produced.
Arsenal’s failure to force through the transfer benefited both clubs. Arsène Wenger spent the £40m-odd earmarked for Suarez on Mesut Özil, a signing as revolutionary as Dennis Bergkamp or Thierry Henry. The Uruguayan, against every expectation, found himself still on Merseyside, although this season he has been happy to parade his family for the cameras.
His hat-trick in a 4-1 win over West Bromwich Albion in a performance as compelling anything Liverpool have produced this season made the rehabilitation complete. The standing ovation was expected but also heartfelt.
Suarez is precious to Anfield. Even during the years of slow decline, Liverpool always possessed a footballer that any club in Europe would covet, be it Michael Owen, Fernando Torres or Suarez. He is still theirs.
One of the last banners to be removed from the Kop was a jibe at the club’s chief executive, Ian Ayre, reminding him that they are “supporters not customers”. However, Ayre and his manager, Brendan Rodgers, have handled Suarez well. Like David Moyes with Wayne Rooney, Liverpool have the advantage of dealing with a street footballer, someone who is happiest centre stage with a ball at his feet.
“It was a very difficult summer for him and everyone at Liverpool,” said Rodgers. “But once he was told we were not going to sell he has worked as hard as anyone.
“I knew once the decision was made it would be hard for him initially but he would get his head down. That is in his nature. He is not one to fake or feign injury and sit in the treatment room. Once he gets out there, his love of football takes over. As a club we had to make a stand and it is paying off for us and for him.”
The question now is whether Liverpool are genuine contenders. Boaz Myhill in the West Bromwich goal thought so, saying that Daniel Sturridge and Suarez were as good as any strike pairing in the league. “If they score an early goal at Anfield, they will be a match for anyone.”
Suarez scores big goals in big games. In his last six matches against the five leading teams from London, Manchester and Merseyside, he has found the net in four. When describing the best save of the match, the one in which he pushed Suarez’s overhead kick onto the crossbar, Myhill suggested why. “He is so sharp, I never even saw him hit it,” he said.
Wrapped in her Liverpool scarf, having flown in from Istanbul to watch the game, Caroline Wozniacki, the former world No 1 tennis player, appreciated the artistry as perhaps only another elite athlete can. She had once warmed up for the Qatar Open in a signed Steven Gerrard shirt. Perhaps it is time for a change of name.
This may be Liverpool’s best start to a season since 2008 but if you flick through one of Sir Alex Ferguson’s books – not his autobiography but the account of the Treble-winning season – you will see Aston Villa streaking ahead through the early pages, setting a pace they were never able to sustain. Neither Arsenal nor Liverpool have much depth.
And their fate may be decided away from Anfield in a sequence that sees them go to Arsenal, Everton, Manchester City and Chelsea with a journey the length of the M62 to Hull squeezed in between.
Rodgers did not beat any of the current Champions League sides in his first season at Liverpool. If they are in the top four when the final whistle goes at Stamford Bridge on 29 December, then 2014 may be the year that, with Ferguson gone, Liverpool clamber back onto the perch that he swept them from.
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