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Same here.Originally posted by S-RED View PostWatching that clip I ****ing love luis, that's the real Luis; I feel its like he has let me down badly (akin to the wife having a drunken kiss) but you can see inside he has a heart of gold & a passion for winning most of us can only dream of.
I really hope I see suarez with a liver bird on his chest next year.
It's going to take a long, long time before we see again a player of Luis qualities.
I really would like to see what we can do with Luis in the team and few good first team additions and especially would like to see him play for Liverpool in CL.Member #1 of the Luis Suarez fan club
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Would that be the spitting?Originally posted by captainfog View PostThe only exception I can think of is Diouf and I think there are pretty exceptional circumstances for that.Experimental music, Metropolitan foodstuffs, Mexican wrestler art, London suburbia, wry whimsy, fansy pants flim flam lad
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But there is no precedent for a player committing THIS offence three times. The fact that you consider it the same offence as a headbutt or elbow is neither here nor there because FIFA and the vast majority of the rest of the world see it differently. Hence the punishment.Originally posted by ChesterDave View PostThe article of FIFA disciplinary code he was charged under was for violent conduct, and for an unsporting act to an opponent. The fact that it was for biting is actually irrelevant. There is precedent to deal with violent conduct on a football field and it should matter if it is 3 elbows, 3 headbutts, 3 kicks, 3 bites or any ****ing combination thereof.
Any player who has been sent off for three incidents of violent conduct has set precedent for what a third offence should be.
You can't argue that Suarez biting someone is the same as anyone committing any other offence three times, because its clearly a different, unprecedented issue.Cult Member. Nazi puncher.
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Jesus christ who's fault is it that Liverpool FC are in this situation!?Originally posted by S-RED View Postwe don't pick and choose, I disagree; we support players that respect the club & 'GET IT'; yes we may go against the grain in certain circumstances/players/managers but they are way few & far between.
Hodgson being the perfect example, if he had got it, he would have had more time, but his arrogance prevailed.
Are you on a wind up?
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Um. I can. I have. And I will continue to do so.Originally posted by chadrtc View Post
You can't argue that Suarez biting someone is the same as anyone committing any other offence three times, because its clearly a different, unprecedented issue.
The fact that the majority of the rest of the world is prepared to tolerate multiple kicks/elbows/headbutts/stamps/kicks says a ****ing hell of a lot more about them than it does about me.Football without Origi is nothing
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Originally posted by danperkins View PostDisagree with this so much.
I would rather support Liverpool FC who have been **** on.. not Luis Suarez. Players come and go
yes & no; I have never seen a better player in a red shirt ( I am 45 so have seen KK forward) & I agree that it shouldn't count but it does.
Yes Liverpool has suffered, but then so have many clubs with genius but damaged talent, Best, gazza, maradonna; Christ even Charlie George, Rodney marsh, frank Worthington, the list is endless. All amazing footballers that suffered a genetic/mad flaw; but still to this day talked about (unless you believe football only started with skyTV)
I hope to see Luis run out of the tunnel 1st game next season in red
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Yet you think biting should be treated less severely? Odd, but fair enough.Originally posted by ChesterDave View PostUm. I can. I have. And I will continue to do so.
The fact that the majority of the rest of the world is prepared to tolerate multiple kicks/elbows/headbutts/stamps/kicks says a ****ing hell of a lot more about them than it does about me.
So in closing... Headbutt, stamp, elbow etc not treated harshly enough. 3 times biting an opponent and the treatment is too harsh.
I disagree but that's the beauty of opinions.Cult Member. Nazi puncher.
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No it doesn't.Originally posted by S-RED View Postyes & no; I have never seen a better player in a red shirt ( I am 45 so have seen KK forward) & I agree that it shouldn't count but it does.
Yes Liverpool has suffered, but then so have many clubs with genius but damaged talent, Best, gazza, maradonna; Christ even Charlie George, Rodney marsh, frank Worthington, the list is endless. All amazing footballers that suffered a genetic/mad flaw; but still to this day talked about (unless you believe football only started with skyTV)
I hope to see Luis run out of the tunnel 1st game next season in red
This is what happens when fans see a player as bigger than the club. I vehemently disagree with everything you've said. It's a sad day when supporters think like this
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Suarez is one of those special, ****-me-I-love-I-hate-him players. Clearly he loves the club and loves playing for us, but clearly he's a nutter too, and he has disrespected the club through his actions by seemingly not taking the club into account in all of this. Where is his 'I let my club and country down'?Originally posted by Venton View Postand how does Suarez fit in with the respecting the club bit?
I'll support him again if he continues to wear the colors on match day, but as for now, I don't have much in the tank to support him. My club is getting all my support and sympathy especially after his **** up.I wear my heart on my profile name.
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that's it though, I agree he has screw loose & of course he wasn't thinking of LFC that moment; but IMO if we lose him now it'll be a long long time before we see that much talent in a red shirt again.Originally posted by Venton View Postand how does Suarez fit in with the respecting the club bit?
lets face it, the man the whole of football holds up as the Bastian of football (SAF) stood 100% behind cantona , stood behind Keane for that tackle, stood behind giggs thru the shagging, stood by rio through the JT/AF racial stuff, Christ even stood by whiteside & McGrath in the early years & never waivered.... I didn't do him any harm ?
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Originally posted by I, Ravel Morrison View PostSuarez is one of those special, ****-me-I-love-I-hate-him players. Clearly he loves the club and loves playing for us. But he has disrespected the club through his actions by seemingly not taking the club into account in all of this. Where is his 'I let my club and country down'?
I'll support him again if he continues to wear the colors on match day, but as for now, I don't have much in the tank to support him. My club is getting all my support and sympathy especially after his **** up.
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Suarez doesn't get a free pass for what he's done. He's a monumental tit. But the sanctions aren't fair. They are not fair on him and they are not fair on us. That is where I take issue. If he had been given a lengthy ban for his country and a stipulation that he sought help then fair enough, you'd have no complaints from me. I don't understand why he does what he does and I very much doubt he knows himself. Simply banning him from all forms of the game for 4 months is just going to alienate him and possibly even make his temperament ever more unstable. For me the punishment doesn't solve the issue, if anything it exacerbates it.
Yeah Suarez probably does get more support than some other players, but then I can't think of a player who tries harder or wants to win more when he's in playing in a red shirt. It works both ways.
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