Luis Suárez

[Fivex]

Are you ok Assassin?

Slinky is giving out man hugs if you need one.

[kev776]

Few want him to go but most expect him to go and they just want it dealt with quickly so we can all move on

[Gray]

Ayre will go in all guns blazing and we'll get £20m and Tello

[Assassin]

Are you ok Assassin?

Slinky is giving out man hugs if you need one.

I'd love one.

Has Slinky had has polo neck turned into a crew neck yet?

[Assassin]

Chazza, is the drunken dromedaris around?

[Fivex]

I'd love one.



Has Slinky had has polo neck turned into a crew neck yet?

I'm not sure but if you repeat that sentence with an awful pun I'm sure he'll be along in no time.

[-V-]

Luis Suarez has served his purpose at Liverpool and should be allowed to join Barcelona
Luis Suarez's ‘apology’ has at least shown his true motives and even Liverpool’s biggest fans should be glad to see him go

By Paul Hayward, Chief Sports Writer
10:47PM BST 01 Jul 2014

Those bangs in the attic of this World Cup are Luis Suárez trying to get out of England. If the title had not been claimed already for a book about Lord Lucan, “Trail of Havoc” would be an appropriate epitaph for his time at Liverpool.

Suárez has served his purpose: he helped to rescue Liverpool from the Europa League zone, or worse. Thank you and good night. Aside from the goals and the mesmerising movement, which speaks of amazing cunning, he has no place with Gianfranco Zola, Dennis Bergkamp or Thierry Henry in the pantheon of foreign players to have graced the Premier League. Remove emotion and every car on Merseyside would fire up to take him to the airport for his flight to Barcelona.

Hang on, you cry. Did the Footballer Writers’ Association not elect him footballer of the year only in May? That vote, which needs to be detached from the old “precept and example” caveat to avoid contradictions such as this one, was a straightforward endorsement for the best player in England in 2013-14. To declare an interest, I missed the ballot deadline, through incompetence, but agreed that Suárez could hardly be denied the award on the basis of generalised moral disdain, given that he had served his time for his offences.

He remained, however, a diver and a thespian from a Latin American street culture where English high-mindedness is often rightly laughed out of court.

But the monumental dishonesty of his initial denial and then semi-apology here in Brazil was more significant than the bite on Giorgio Chiellini. It showed him not to be a troubled soul who needs “help”. He is a man of infinite low calculation who will take any measure necessary to protect his own self-interest.

We can say this without anger, or outrage, or even caring very much. These are mere notes in the margins of his character. If a Cameroon Football Association investigation into possible match fixing unearths evidence of corruption in the group stages here then Suárez’s teeth colliding with Chiellini’s shoulder (the original explanation) will read like a skirmish at a six-year-olds’ party. But the rush to compare every offence – biting, butting, violent tackling, elbowing – in the quest to get Suárez off the hook only obscured his Machiavellian handling of the fallout.

For that reason, the craven “apology” and subsequent praise from Barcelona’s sporting director, Andoni Zubizarreta, were moments of welcome clarity. They rendered the whole game transparent, and gave Liverpool fans the reason they need to abandon their all-out defensive posture.

Nobody in football doubts that Suárez cost Kenny Dalglish his job, which puts a never-ending twist on the desperation of some Liverpool supporters to defend him, even after the farce in Brazil. Stick up for the man who brought King Kenny down?

Suárez has atoned for it since, some might say. And nobody forced Dalglish to print those T-shirts defending him in the Patrice Evra racial abuse case – or to excuse his refusal to shake Evra’s hand at Old Trafford (despite being told to). This is not old ground. It is a reminder of the delusion we slip into when we turn footballers into gods.

The loyalists who closed ranks around Suárez after the Chiellini biting fiasco will surely turn on him when he signs for Barcelona. This indignation-mode is based on the old idea that an attack on a Liverpool player is an attack on the whole of Liverpool FC, their history and traditions.

Dalglish, who doubtless felt he was being loyal and honourable, fell into this trap during the Evra racial abuse case, in which Suárez was found guilty. The embarrassment it caused spread all the way to Boston, where John Henry’s Fenway Sports Group went looking for a new manager.

It may be a columnist’s cliche, but nobody from this third biting scandal emerges with much credit, except perhaps Fifa, which ignored the rantings of the Uruguay federation and manager Oscar Tabarez to make the point that Suárez had clearly not been deterred by the first two suspensions for chomping. The risible conspiracy theories constructed around the perpetrator also undermined the case for mercy.

Suárez is a master at exploiting desperation. Liverpool needed a world-class talent to lift them back into the Champions League places and indulged him to that end. He repaid them with a dazzling season.

Barcelona have fallen behind Real Madrid and Atlético Madrid as the tiki-taka era fades. Football-wise, Suárez is just what they need: an elusive runner, finisher and creator. The game has moved on and Suárez will help Barcelona to catch up.

Liverpool can move on too, under Brendan Rodgers, if they spend wisely and avoid being taken hostage ever again by the talent of one player. And the World Cup, you will have noticed, is fine without him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/luis-suarez/10938990/Luis-Suarez-has-served-his-purpose-at-Liverpool-and-should-be-allowed-to-join-Barcelona.html

Go **** yourself Paul Hayward

Talking as if we are getting rid of a disease and we should be glad to get rid of him. What absolute rubbish, Suarez is the key reason why Liverpool FC is back in the champions league. People like Paul Hayward have been saying for a long time now that we should sell him, only because they know that in doing so we will be shooting ourselves in the foot.

They are loving the fact that we are considering selling him

[Assassin]

I'm not sure but if you repeat that sentence with an awful pun I'm sure he'll be along in no time.

How's the garden hammock project coming on Five0?

[Le Chef]

sterling has the potential to be brilliant, coutinho will want to prove his worth/fight for his place with lallana coming in, who will also be looking to prove himself and add goals/assists

plus Sturridge might be thinking - great, with suarez gone i'm the man now and this is my chance to show how good i can be and get out of suarez's shadow so to speak

plus lambert gives us an extra bit of decent cover and will get goals,


and all that's without even thinking about who will probably sign as a marquee/suarez replacement signing (sanchez or whoever)

from a bbc article in Sept last year when he was banned -

without Suarez

18 games, 11 wins, 3 draws/4 losses

plus we'd have a stronger squad/better cover than in those 18 games.



he's top class - prob only messi/ronaldo who are on the same level - but he's not the be all and end all and we're not going to suddenly be **** without


personally i think **** him - we're on the up playing exciting football, with great fans, great atmosphere and i'm confident that trophies will come.

If he doesn't want to be apart of that then **** it. He can go to Barca we're he will be second fiddle to the greatest player of all time in a **** league that only has two other teams to worry about (and the way Atletico are selling players they'll be out the hunt next year also)

Or, I've made it and performances drop - That's my worry with Sturridge, even Brendo dropped him for the derby if you recall

[Charly]

Look at the Mancs. I reckon selling Ronaldo was the start of their downward trajectory.

They never replaced him and the whole team just stagnated to the point its at now. Although they did still win two titles without him. The mistake was perhaps putting all of their eggs in Rooney, who is half the player Ronaldo was.

[Fivex]

How's the garden hammock project coming on Five0?

I direct you to t'shed thread

[Charly]

Or, I've made it and performances drop - That's my worry with Sturridge, even Brendo dropped him for the derby if you recall

Plus He has fitness concerns.

It was nice having the top two leading scorers in the league, but we are now under pressure to top last season in attack, when we could be focusing more on our defence. We could push Gerrard forward and get a proper holding midfielder in to protect the defence. For me this would have the biggest effect. Plus someone who can dominate in the air and we would be sorted.

[Chris]

Or, I've made it and performances drop - That's my worry with Sturridge, even Brendo dropped him for the derby if you recall

I dunno what he's got to do to make people drop this "attitude problem" rubbish.

Being on the bench for Everton was hardly a big dropping drama, he went on international duty with an injury, missed the Chile game, played v Germany in the midweek, Rodgers said he come back on the friday and looked nowhere near fit in training which is the FA's and Dan's responsibility. He then didn't start a 12.45 the next day. No big deal.

[marcus50bucks]

Go **** yourself Paul Hayward

Talking as if we are getting rid of a disease and we should be glad to get rid of him. What absolute rubbish, Suarez is the key reason why Liverpool FC is back in the champions league. People like Paul Hayward have been saying for a long time now that we should sell him, only because they know that in doing so we will be shooting ourselves in the foot.

They are loving the fact that we are considering selling him

[Assassin]

I dunno what he's got to do to make people drop this "attitude problem" rubbish.

Being on the bench for Everton was hardly a big dropping drama, he went on international duty with an injury, missed the Chile game, played v Germany in the midweek, Rodgers said he come back on the friday and looked nowhere near fit in training which is the FA's and Dan's responsibility. He then didn't start a 12.45 the next day. No big deal.

Yes, he was unfit and put country before club, to make sure he would travel to Brazil. Rodgers done the right thing by protecting him and putting him on the bench