Aquilani - stay or go?

[Neil Young]

Please stop complicating the issues, dww.

I don't visit this site to get an understanding of reality, I use it simply because I enjoy watching people vent.



And yes, I have just exited the Amy Winehouse thread.

[SB]

Surely it would depend on whether we got a substantial fee for the loan?

I don't think it matters Dave as his contract will be worth that much less anyway surely ?

Keep him till Xmas at the least IMO and sell the dross. It's just like Rick Parry is back at present

[SB]

Please stop complicating the issues, dww.

I don't visit this site to get an understanding of reality, I use it simply because I enjoy watching people invent.

[Neil Young]

[SB]

So where do you sit in regards to the should he stay or should he go debate Mr Young ? Keep him or sell him or loan him out ?

[Neil Young]

I haven't got an opinion actually because I haven't watched any of the pre-season games.

I'm more interested in why the club would loan him out
If he's been our best player in pre-season
I could be wrong but have no doubt
There has to be a reason

[dww]

I don't think it matters Dave as his contract will be worth that much less anyway surely ?

Keep him till Xmas at the least IMO and sell the dross. It's just like Rick Parry is back at present

He signed a 5 year contract, so it's not as if he would be off on a free. If we got say £5m loan fee (with an agreed full transfer fee for next summer) and they paid his wages then it is a fair bit we have made back. Obviously I have no idea how likely that is.

I'm not sure how we are supposed to sell people if there are no interested buyers. I think people have very unreasonable expectations of what we can do in the market. From the perspective of buyers we are in a very week position - i.e. we have too many players, need to get rid of some and get in some money for new signings. There is no reason for them to come in with big offers. We are still having to work through a backlog from the last owners.

If Kenny doesn't see Aquilani as an option he fancies then keeping him (on big wages) seems a bit counter productive.

[dww]

Please stop complicating the issues, dww.

I don't visit this site to get an understanding of reality, I use it simply because I enjoy watching people vent.



And yes, I have just exited the Amy Winehouse thread.

[RedReet]

I don't think it matters Dave as his contract will be worth that much less anyway surely ?

Keep him till Xmas at the least IMO and sell the dross. It's just like Rick Parry is back at present

Obviously our hands are tied if we have no outright offers, but I don’t see any logic in another loan deal. In theory his value should be at it’s peak right now on the back of a relatively successful and injury free season. He could well flop at Fiorentina or pick up another injury and best case scenario is he has another good season, but he’ll be another year closer to 30 with less time on his contract dropping his value even further.

Even if we agree a fee with Fiorentina, we could have the Juve scenario all over again.

[SB]

He signed a 5 year contract, so it's not as if he would be off on a free. If we got say £5m loan fee (with an agreed full transfer fee for next summer) and they paid his wages then it is a fair bit we have made back. Obviously I have no idea how likely that is.

I'm not sure how we are supposed to sell people if there are no interested buyers. I think people have very unreasonable expectations of what we can do in the market. From the perspective of buyers we are in a very week position - i.e. we have too many players, need to get rid of some and get in some money for new signings. There is no reason for them to come in with big offers. We are still having to work through a backlog from the last owners.

If Kenny doesn't see Aquilani as an option he fancies then keeping him (on big wages) seems a bit counter productive.

They could probably buy him for 5mil more I'd have thought a fee closer to 2 mil would have been closer but I have no evidence to confirm that assumption

[SB]

I haven't got an opinion actually because I haven't watched any of the pre-season games.

I'm more interested in why the club would loan him out
If he's been our best player in pre-season
I could be wrong but have no doubt
There has to be a reason

A poet and you didn't even know it

[SB]

Obviously our hands are tied if we have no outright offers, but I don’t see any logic in another loan deal. In theory his value should be at it’s peak right now on the back of a relatively successful and injury free season. He could well flop at Fiorentina or pick up another injury and best case scenario is he has another good season, but he’ll be another year closer to 30 with less time on his contract dropping his value even further.

Even if we agree a fee with Fiorentina, we could have the Juve scenario all over again.

100% in agreeance with ya

[Neil Young]

A poet and you didn't even know it

That wasn't poetry. It was doggerel.

[SB]

That wasn't poetry. It was doggerel.

Doggerel is a derogatory term for verse considered of little literary value. The word probably derived from dog, suggesting either ugliness, or unpalatability (as in food fit only for dogs).

Dog = ugliness

[Neil Young]

Ugly? I think not.

Q.E.D.