Spurs vs Liverpool Post match thread

[Chris]

But we also have to take into consideration the honeymoon period with Dalglish.

There isnt an automatic honeymoon period, you either manage the players well or you dont. Where was our honeymoon period under Hodgson?

[Suarez]

Enrique doesnt fall short at all, nowhere near it.

Thats funny, I didn't see any other top sides chasing him?

Thats your opinion, not mine, but once again I'd say if you think he's brilliant then I'm happy for you, I really am. It must be amazing for you watching Liverpool every week with all these brilliant players.

[Lecter]

Possibly not, but both are capable of making the decisive pass with the quality they had. There was nobody in midfield with that technical ability, actually theres nobody in the squad now with their technical ability at all.

I agree though, even the basics were poor, I just don't agree with anyone who seems to think we were doing well until yesterday, not with the fixtures we had.

Again you have to win possession of the ball to use it

Neither Adam, Henderson nor Lucas won enough of it to matter

Our ALL round decision making was atrocious yesterday in and out of possession. People tackled when they didnt need to, didnt when they should have, dwelt on the ball too long in suicidal areas and passed the ball to the wrong option

Personally I'm not in a panic over anything I've seen this season

Yeah I have some concerns but nothing overly dramatic at the minute

[Lecter]

But we also have to take into consideration the honeymoon period with Dalglish.

IF I remember rightly the honeymoon period under Kenny had us as the team with the 2nd or 3rd best point tally - did it not?

People need to get a grip

We were hard done by at Stoke and we got what we deserved at Spurs no need to panic yet

I'd be far more concerned if we were consistantly bad (like under Roy) but we havent been

[Suarez]

There isnt an automatic honeymoon period, you either manage the players well or you dont. Where was our honeymoon period under Hodgson?

Don't you recall our best display in the defeat against Everton?

[Chris]

Thats funny, I didn't see any other top sides chasing him?

Hahahah oh dear, do you really want to go down this route considering the lack of competition we had for your username? Embarrassing yourself here.

Where was our competition for Reina, Alonso and Torres?

Go back to bluekipper you turd.

[the rev leeroy brown]

Thats funny, I didn't see any other top sides chasing him?Thats your opinion, not mine, but once again I'd say if you think he's brilliant then I'm happy for you, I really am. It must be amazing for you watching Liverpool every week with all these brilliant players.

apart from arsenal and the reported interest from madrid early summer.

enrique has been up there with cole, evra and baines for the last 2 seasons as one of the best left backs in the country.

[Suarez]

IF I remember rightly the honeymoon period under Kenny had us as the team with the 2nd or 3rd best point tally - did it not?

People need to get a grip

We were hard done by at Stoke and we got what we deserved at Spurs no need to panic yet

Exactly, however we had no pressure then either, the season was already ****ed. We played with freedom, and unfortunately when we needed to win to regain a european place and the pressure was back on, we fell short.

Can I make this clear, I'm not panicking, I believe we're going to be in the top 6, but not in the top 4, that is all. I think people are expecting too much.

[Chris]

Can I make this clear, I'm not panicking

You've written all our signings off as "very average", said Enrique isnt very good because no one was in for him, said you'll be back at the end of the season to boast about our failure, basically said Kenny's good results were just a honeymoon period and said we'll be fighting it out with Stoke and Everton in the league.

Jeez, I would hate to see you in a panic if this is the rational you!

[Suarez]

Hahahah oh dear, do you really want to go down this route considering the lack of competition we had for your username? Embarrassing yourself here.

Where was our competition for Reina, Alonso and Torres?

Go back to bluekipper you turd.

He hasn't proved himself yet like those 3 have, time will tell...like I've said, you seem to be over the moon with what you've seen so far, and I'm happy for you, I really am.

Now listen dimwit, I've said HE'S A STEP UP, I'm just not ready to vote for him as the UEFA player of the year award just yet.

[Lecter]

Exactly, however we had no pressure then either, the season was already ****ed. We played with freedom, and unfortunately when we needed to win to regain a european place and the pressure was back on, we fell short.

Can I make this clear, I'm not panicking, I believe we're going to be in the top 6, but not in the top 4, that is all. I think people are expecting too much.

Did we fall to bits because of pressure or did injuries get the better of us - imo the latter

Remember we ended the season playing Spearing, Flanagan & Robinson regularly

I think our squad was found out then

Is our squad better than it was

IMO yes, in yours clearly not

We finished 6th last season with the worst start we have had for 50 odd years

I think we've improved, Arsenal havent imo they are much weaker. Spurs have improved but despite their good performance yesterday I'm not too sure I'd be that fearful of them

[Suarez]

apart from arsenal and the reported interest from madrid early summer.

enrique has been up there with cole, evra and baines for the last 2 seasons as one of the best left backs in the country.

Arsenal, lets not go there,

If Real Madrid were really after him he'd be there now.

I think he's a good player, but, players often look better than they are when in a poor side. He has to prove himself at a top side so we'll see how he goes. I'm sure as hell not worried about him as I am with Carroll and Henderson.

[Lecter]

Arsenal, lets not go there,

If Real Madrid were really after him he'd be there now.

I think he's a good player, but, players often look better than they are when in a poor side. He has to prove himself at a top side so we'll see how he goes. I'm sure as hell not worried about him as I am with Carroll and Henderson.

I'm not even that worried about Carroll to be honest

I've yet to see us gve him ANY kind of service that would benefit him

Henderson is a clever lad imo, his movement is great BUT I'd question his overall quality in possession and far too often he doesnt take responsibility and goes for the much easier option

Whether that can be ironed out over time remains to be seen

[the rev leeroy brown]

Arsenal, lets not go there,

If Real Madrid were really after him he'd be there now.

I think he's a good player, but, players often look better than they are when in a poor side. He has to prove himself at a top side so we'll see how he goes. I'm sure as hell not worried about him as I am with Carroll and Henderson.

each to their own but i would ask you dont judge henderson and carroll on a handful of games this season - or even this season as a whole. IMO they are young players for the future. we have bought them for 5 years (at least) and right now henderson is playing due to gerard not being fit. i dont think kenny would have thrown him in right away had steven been ready for the first game. once gerard is back id expect our line up to alter and for henderson to be deployed in a more advanced role when he does play. carroll also hasnt got going bu there are signs he will come good.

[doogle]

We're not going to get into the top 4, Spurs are IMO, we'll be 6 or 7 points short and battling it out with Everton and Stoke for europa league places.

I'm not deciding these players are average after 5 league games at all...they did exist before the start of the season you know.

Decent in 4 games? We've played the poorest Arsenal side in decades, the Arsenal that conceded 8 goals to Man Utd and shipped 4 to Blackburn, yet they had to have a man sent off before we could take advantage. We've beaten Wigan, wow, drew with the mighty Sunderland, and were battered by Spurs before the sendings off, they were playing us off the park and looked like scoring everytime they went forward. Its offensive for people to point towards the sendings off at Spurs because it was men v boys before that.

It'll become clear to everyone by the end of the season that we've brought in a very average bunch of players for mega bucks, and we'll be closer to Everton (who's entire squad cost 50p) than we are to the top.

People will always dismiss this, they do every season. We will see who's right.

without even playing them