Spurs vs Liverpool Post match thread

[Mostar]

Feel bad for Kenny.

Entire team let him down today especially new boys.

If this will not motivate them to be show what they are made of I am not sure if anything will.

[BootRoom]

Where were Carragher's fabled organisation skills? We're constantly told that's his main strength and the team would basically fall apart without him, yet we were all over the shop when it was 11 vs. 11, and he got caught several times playing them onside, leading directly to two goals

I still can't believe we let Skrtel face Bale. It's just baffling. Flanagan with Kuyt in front would have been a better option.

[el matador]

i dont think we had any choice but to play skrtel there. with so many injury prone players agger, johnson and kelly what choice did we have.

i think the decision to start with carroll against a team that keeps the ball really well was a mistake. it was equally ridiculous to play downing on the right especially as adam was pushed out to the left.

i just think kenny got it wrong and we got dicked. henderson looks a better central midfield player than right flanker, charlie adam isnt good enough at the highest level and the decision to pay £35m for carroll should lead to instant dismissal for whoever decided to press ahead.

he's rubbish, he's not even as good as emile heskey and we could have had him for nothing. downing is decent but playing him on the right is a complete waste.

kenny needs to sort this quick or he'll be gone the way of hodgdon.

[Imy]

Feel bad for Kenny.

Entire team let him down today especially new boys.

If this will not motivate them to be show what they are made of I am not sure if anything will.

He ****ed up too, he may be King Kenny but he shouldn't be immune from criticism either

[Mostar]

i dont think we had any choice but to play skrtel there. with so many injury prone players agger, johnson and kelly what choice did we have.

i think the decision to start with carroll against a team that keeps the ball really well was a mistake. it was equally ridiculous to play downing on the right especially as adam was pushed out to the left.

i just think kenny got it wrong and we got dicked. henderson looks a better central midfield player than right flanker, charlie adam isnt good enough at the highest level and the decision to pay £35m for carroll should lead to instant dismissal for whoever decided to press ahead.

he's rubbish, he's not even as good as emile heskey and we could have had him for nothing. downing is decent but playing him on the right is a complete waste.

kenny needs to sort this quick or he'll be gone the way of hodgdon.

Yes we did unless Flanagan is injured and he couldn't enter the rotation. Sure he didn't have good start but we needed pace to contain Bale and with Skrtel that was out of question.

If he is healthy it is still puzzling why he at least didn't make the bench and Robinson did.

[BigChief]

Absolute ****e from everyone concerned and a sickening reality check. Buck stops with Kenny though. A decent start has become a ****ing ****e one. That was a ****ing disaster today, a disgrace to LFC.

We didn't give Hodson a chance 'til Christmas because he was being a tw@t generally. Dalglish is a legend so he will get until Christmas, but I can't say I've been blown over by his style or motivation thus far from a pure footballing perspective.

And unlike Hodgson, he doesn't have owners as an excuse.

[Kenneth]

Remember the 'best midfield in the world' song?

[Mostar]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/kenny-s-spurs-verdict

Kenny's Spurs verdict

Kenny Dalglish believes Liverpool's sluggish start was the overriding factor behind Sunday's 4-0 defeat at Tottenham.

The Reds conceded a stunning opener to Luka Modric after six minutes before losing Charlie Adam to a second yellow card just prior to the half hour mark.

Martin Skrtel also saw red in the second half as further goals from Jermain Defoe and Emmanuel Adebayor (2) capped a miserable day for Dalglish and co.

Speaking at his post match press conference the Liverpool manager said: "We started the game short of the level we have been at recently.

"They started better than us and Modric scores a great goal to put them one in front. Then Daniel Agger gets injured in the process of trying to make the tackle, but it's a great finish.

"That was the start of our downfall. We started poorly and they began better than us, despite the other incidents which are best left unanswered. We can look at ourselves and the start we had in the game because that dictated what was going to happen to us.

"I think Tottenham started really well and played really well. It's best that we stick to what we can dictate the future of and that is playing football. We cannot legislate for results.

"We also want to be respectful to Tottenham who played particularly well."

Asked about his views on the incidents that saw Liverpool reduced to nine men inside 63 minutes, Dalglish said: "We are better just leaving it.

"It's best left unsaid because whatever happens then takes away from a great performance from Tottenham.

"We'll have a look at the video and if we've done something wrong then we can correct that.

"One thing that you didn't see was a mass of Liverpool players running around the referee to dispute a decision. That doesn't necessarily mean that they agree with the decision. Its' just that they have respect for the referee. If you have respect for the referee I don't see why there is ( the suggestion) there is a disciplinary problem.

"How you start the game dictates what you get from it.

"We'll find out if we did something differently or if they prepared differently. We'll sit down and talk about it on Tuesday."

The first-half dismissal of Adam was compounded by an injury to Agger that saw the centre back replaced by debutant Sebastian Coates.

However, Dalglish had no news on how long the Dane could be out for.

He said: "It's his rib cage. It happened when he slid in to make the challenge (on Modric) so I don't know what it is yet. We don't know, but it must be painful."

Dalglish made one change to the side that lost 1-0 at Stoke last week by drafting Andy Carroll in for Dirk Kuyt.

Quizzed as to why he had opted to make the switch, the boss said: "You can stick with the players you want. As I've said before, it's not just about a team .It's about a squad and that will be used throughout the season.

"When there is a victory no comments are made about the team but if it's a defeat then whatever players you use are wrong.

"With how we started the game we would still have lost, irrespective of what else happened."

Dalglish was also asked if he felt the result would affect many pundits' view that Liverpool would claim a top four berth this season.

"That still might be true. But it's not difficult to be upset when you have lost a game," he said.

"The boys are upset too and so they should be. If they weren't they wouldn't be here. The football club expects more than a 4-0 defeat when you come away from home.

"To be fair to them they take pride in the club themselves as well. So they'll be disappointed."

He added: "It will be a tight league. You can see that from the way it has started. It is tight for everybody.

"Everyone is capable of picking up points wherever they go."

Liverpool must now regroup in time for Wednesday's Carling Cup clash at Brighton.

The game has already been mooted as a contest that could see the return to action of skipper Steven Gerrard, but Dalglish refused to be drawn on when the No.8 will be back.

He said: "He's fine. We'll try to get over this before we start worrying about something else. I've said all along, he's done fantastically well to get where he is. We'll just monitor him and pick the right moment for him and us before we get him back.

"Its natural everyone wants to chase for Stevie, especially after you have lost 4-0. But we'll monitor it, take it how it goes and when both parties agree he'll play.

[BringbackBiscan]

We didn't give Hodson a chance 'til Christmas because he was being a tw@t generally. Dalglish is a legend so he will get until Christmas, but I can't say I've been blown over by his style or motivation thus far from a pure footballing perspective.

And unlike Hodgson, he doesn't have owners as an excuse.

Kenny deserves a chance to Christmas?? Wtf when the liverpool fans become like newcastle or Chelsea. Hodgson was a joke & should never have been at the club in the first place. We don't turn on our manager after a few bad results.

I tell you what, lets sack him if he doesn't win the champions league this season.

[shanks69]

torres has scored.

[el matador]

theres no way you put an 18yr old rookie in against gareth bale because i can tell you flannagan would have been sent off long before skrtel went.

skrtel got caught out time and time again because i just dont think that he fancied going tight to bale. adam, agger, carroll and skrtel just werent good enough today.

we still need anothe centre back because skrtel is ****, agger is always injured and carras on his last legs. we should be looking to make a move for gary cahill, another central midfield player and another striker.

today was a ****ing joke.

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theres no way you put an 18yr old rookie in against gareth bale because i can tell you flannagan would have been sent off long before skrtel went.

I guess we'll never know...

[BootRoom]

I feel sorry for Lucas, having to play againt the opposition midfield almost on his own with minimal support from Henderson, Downing and Adam.

I've waited a good while after the match to post, but just thinking about it now I'm getting more annoyed. ****ing hell.

[Chris]

We didn't give Hodson a chance 'til Christmas because he was being a tw@t generally. Dalglish is a legend so he will get until Christmas, but I can't say I've been blown over by his style or motivation thus far from a pure footballing perspective.

And unlike Hodgson, he doesn't have owners as an excuse.

Good grief, frightening in how clueless that is. Hodgson's results did for him, nothing else. We've got more points from this 5 games than Hodgson got in his first 8 last season!

[gentingfrmhell]

Torres just scored.