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    #31
    Chucking Coates into that, would be ridiculous.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
      442 with Spearing and Lucas as CMers?

      I'd worry about that, they'd offer nothing going forward.
      Yup.

      As I said above, you can't create anything if you don't have the ball to begin with. The emphasis would be on Kuyt, Suarez and Downing to create the openings, derby games are never pretty or won on guile alone and we need to avoid a repeat of that opening spell against Spurs.
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      Therefore I lied to please the mob.
      Now all my lies are proved untrue
      And I must face the men I slew.
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      Mine angry and defrauded young?

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        #33
        Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
        A full week of intensive fitness training and he'd be alright for an hour. Have the game won by then and take him off to solidify.
        it would be madness to start him and risk a breakdown, he'll be eased back in. We're doing alright without him so there's no need to rush him. Can't wait until he is back properly.
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          #34
          Originally posted by Shanks View Post
          Heard loads about Skrtel messing up and Carras legs going,
          are these same people happy to swap either of them two for Coates, in a derby?
          No way. Not yet.

          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
          Chucking Coates into that, would be ridiculous.
          Completely agree.
          I could not dig, I dared not rob:
          Therefore I lied to please the mob.
          Now all my lies are proved untrue
          And I must face the men I slew.
          What tale shall serve me here among
          Mine angry and defrauded young?

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            #35
            Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
            it would be madness to start him and risk a breakdown, he'll be eased back in. We're doing alright without him so there's no need to rush him. Can't wait until he is back properly.
            Wasnt Leeds and Wolves easing him back in?

            He's said himself his groin is as strong as ever and whilst his match fitness isnt there yet, a week of fitness work should see him right.

            He could easily do an hour.

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              #36
              Regarding centre back, Skrtel's biggest problem is when somebody runs at him, with pace and commits him. Luckily, Everton dont have anyone who can do that. I dont think Skrtel will be a problem for us at Goodison.

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                #37
                Defence...

                We'll get screwed on set pieces..

                Baines and Fellaini will be their only threat..

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                  #38
                  I have a feeling Gerrard will start.

                  I would like to see something like

                  Reina
                  Kelly Carra Skrtel Enrique
                  Adam Lucas
                  Kuyt Gerrard Bellamy/Downing
                  Suarez

                  But would be equally happy with

                  Reina
                  Kelly Carra Skrtel Enrique
                  Kuyt Gerrard Lucas Downing/Bellamy
                  Suarez Carroll

                  Id probably play Adam instead of Spearing(If Gerrard isn't fit) and Bellamy or Downing is
                  a tough one, but I think we will see the second shape I posted as opposed to the first, just not sure of the players in the team.

                  Will also be interesting to see how Suarez is in this match, he seems to play angry and I can see him being really up for it.
                  The times they are a changin'.

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                    #39
                    I can see them targeting reina, he's all over the place at the moment, for whatever reason. He has a dodgy run every season, usually at the start and then shows up.
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                      #40
                      Reina

                      Kelly
                      Carra
                      Skrtle
                      Jose

                      Kuyt
                      Soaring
                      Lucas
                      Downing

                      Belly
                      Carroll

                      Suarez and gerrard unleashed on them around 60min mark if they are needed.

                      I want to mess with suarez head and get him pumped up for the scum.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST View Post
                        I want to mess with suarez head and get him pumped up for the scum.
                        Good job you're not the manager then eh!

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                          #42
                          -------------Reina-----------------
                          ---kelly----carra----skrtel-----enrique
                          -----------lucas-----adam----------
                          ---bellamy------Suarez-------downing-
                          ----------------carroll----------------

                          thats a very fluid three players in bellamy, suarez and downing could confuse the everton defense if they all mix and match. i'd like to see stevie g make this one, but i don't think he will start, i've gone for bellamy over kuyt but tbh its very close between those two, wouldnt be disappointed whichever one gets the start.
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                            Kuyt has got to start.

                            Could also make a strong case for Bellamy, with his stomach for the battle, workrate, pace etc. I'd love to see Dirk and Bellamy start.
                            Imo it will be the same line up as against Wolves with the exception of Dirky.

                            Kuyt for Hendo will be imo only change for Saturday. Dirk traditionally did extremely well against Bitters and I personally expect him to start.

                            Would love too to see Bellamy in starting 11 but I just cannot see it without dropping Downing, which I don't think Kenny will do.
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                              Reina
                              Kelly Carra Skrtel Enrique
                              Spearing Lucas
                              Kuyt Gerrard Downing
                              Suarez
                              Adam or Bellamy in place of Gerrard and I'm sold on that. Stevie to come on after an hour.
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                                I'd be extremely worried about a midfield of Henderson/Adam/Lucas/Downing for the derby. Adam simply can't tackle and I'd be very concerned another game might pass Henderson by so Spearing is actually a decent shout, its probably too early for Gerrard to play 90 mins and although you could talk about a lack of creativity with Jay in there alongside Lucas, the Spurs game showed us that you can't create anything in the middle if you get badly outfought and never have the ball.

                                Kuyt really has to start, he's not an ideal on the right in a 442 but its still the best alternative for me. Defence we don't really have a lot of room for maneuvering with at the moment due to injuries so that sort of picks itself, and while we could maybe come up with something interesting in a 4-2-3-1 involving Bellamy, I think Kenny will stick with basically the same formation as the last few weeks. If he does I'd hope to see a team of...

                                Reina

                                Kelly - Carra - Skrtel - Enrique

                                Kuyt - Spearing - Lucas - Downing

                                Suarez - Carroll


                                I think the pace will be too much for Adam, and while he offers alot going forward, but not enough defensively, I'd stick Jay in for this one to give us a solid base from midfield. Also Henderson has gone missing in games for us this season we can't afford him to do that in the derby, also the games suits Kuyt's high work rate and he will provide protection for Kelly.
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