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    #76
    Far more likely is we've got used to interpreting what Benitez was trying to do with his changes. So even when they didn't work we could see the sense in them.

    In time I'm sure we'll work out most of Dalglish's.

    Also, who was co-commentating on Sunday? I remember thinking at the time they were more informative than we usually get.
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    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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      #77
      Originally posted by BringbackBiscan View Post
      Something no club does anymore. Squad rotation is part and parcel of the modern day game.
      We can rotate in the Carling Cup and against 'easy' FA cup opponents (if we get any); keep the best team for the League games.

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        #78
        I was absolutely made up about the Chelsea result but forgive me if I don't crack open the bunting just yet. It showed a greater desire and fight but once again highlighted our profligacy in front of goal. We were all over them first half, yet only managed one goal.

        We dropped off once again in the second half, (I suppose this would be expected away at Chelsea) and even though they've been labelled a "team in crisis" Chelsea weren't that far away from beating us.

        There are a lot of positives from Sunday, our more solid looking backline, the more fluid, pacey and attacking unit (worrying in that it looked a hell of a lot more dangerous by not featuring our 50m+ worth of bought talent) and fantastic Adam performance, but we need that consistent run of results we had at the end of last season.
        I would certainly expect Man City to be a lot more clinical, which is grounds for concern.

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          #79
          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
          Far more likely is we've got used to interpreting what Benitez was trying to do with his changes. So even when they didn't work we could see the sense in them.

          In time I'm sure we'll work out most of Dalglish's.

          Also, who was co-commentating on Sunday? I remember thinking at the time they were more informative than we usually get.
          Gary Neville.

          He does actually talk sense but that says more about the state of punditry on Sky then it does ratboy imo.

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            #80
            Thanks.

            Yes, he's been good so far. As you say though, that says more about how abysmal almost all the others are.

            Souness was good afterwards too.
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            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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              #81
              Originally posted by Lecter View Post
              We have to finish those lesser teams off though and that for me has been our problem for many years

              This season the problem is even more obvious because we are creating enough chances to drub some of these but we are not clinical enough

              The problem with this forum is that things are only ever black and white when its probably more likely to be several different shades of grey

              For me the panic from some posters (over the last few weeks) has been laughable but equally to paint everything as rosey is delusional

              We are a work in progress and we can definitely improve in a number of areas not least putting the ball in the back of the net
              I don't think that fits in with the common themes of we are great when we win **** when we lose though.

              I think people forget how truly unbelievably **** we were this time last year. We've come a long way. Beating Chelsea at there place without Gerrard, Carragher and Torres. Who would have said they could see us doing that this time last year.

              I like the footy we are playing, and think we are getting there. I'm reasonably confident we will get top 4 this season.
              Modifying post.

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                #82
                It's pretty evident that we played some lovely stuff between January and May and dicked a lot of sides with some great pass and move football.

                On Sunday, when the usual suspects & correct type of players returned to the side, eg Maxi, Bellamy etc, we did it again.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                  It's pretty evident that we played some lovely stuff between January and May and dicked a lot of sides with some great pass and move football.

                  On Sunday, when the usual suspects & correct type of players returned to the side, eg Maxi, Bellamy etc, we did it again.
                  Exactly.
                  3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                    #84
                    Yep, but at the same time Hendo is young and new, Downing is new and Carrol is new and very different in terms of style. Give it time, it will all come together .. we have many many tools in the box .... it was not very long ago people were lashing into Adam who incidentally i seen my first Charlie Adam Liverpool top in Asia today which brought a smile to my face. We are competitive for 3rd and 4th which for just under a year from a club in utter turmoil, is some achievement for all connected with the club.
                    Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                    #****CITY

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                      It's pretty evident that we played some lovely stuff between January and May and dicked a lot of sides with some great pass and move football.

                      On Sunday, when the usual suspects & correct type of players returned to the side, eg Maxi, Bellamy etc, we did it again.
                      The thing is though Craig we didnt create tons of great chances against Chelsea

                      We got into areas which should have led to chances but invariably ****ed them up by missing a pass etc...

                      We created far more chances against teams like Norwich, Swansea & Stoke

                      The differences between results is that at Chelsea we took the chances we had instead of missing them (like we did in those other games)
                      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                        The thing is though Craig we didnt create tons of great chances against Chelsea

                        We got into areas which should have led to chances but invariably ****ed them up by missing a pass etc...

                        We created far more chances against teams like Norwich, Swansea & Stoke

                        The differences between results is that at Chelsea we took the chances we had instead of missing them (like we did in those other games)
                        I'd say the difference was that, against Chelsea, we controlled the game (barring 20 mins after HT) and our performance was entirely assured and had a degree of comfort about it. Against Swansea, we were ****e and outplayed for periods (arguably deserving to lose) and against Norwich, they also had too much space and possession at times, with us not in control of the game.

                        The chances thing, i agree with you about but bear in mind we were away at Chelsea and home against the other two, so you are going to have more chances at home, generally speaking. Also, against Chelsea, a lot of your game will be based at keeping them at arm's length and not allowing them to be dangerous, so this will limit the chance-making potential to a point.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                          I'd say the difference was that, against Chelsea, we controlled the game (barring 20 mins after HT) and our performance was entirely assured and had a degree of comfort about it. Against Swansea, we were ****e and outplayed for periods (arguably deserving to lose) and against Norwich, they also had too much space and possession at times, with us not in control of the game.

                          The chances thing, i agree with you about but bear in mind we were away at Chelsea and home against the other two, so you are going to have more chances at home, generally speaking. Also, against Chelsea, a lot of your game will be based at keeping them at arm's length and not allowing them to be dangerous, so this will limit the chance-making potential to a point.
                          You cant controll ames for 90 minutes though

                          Swansea, Norwich & Chelsea all had periods

                          The thing is against Swansea (despite playing ****e) and Norwich we could have been out of sight
                          Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                            #88
                            Obviously not control the game for 90 mins, but throughout the majority of the game at Chelsea, we were assured and 'in control' eg, there wasnt really a sense of panic or the fans ****ting themselves, feeling like things were going to happen and we couldnt do anything to stop it (eg out of our control). Against Norwich and Swansea, this was very much the case at times. Didnt feel it against Chelsea though.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
                              Obviously not control the game for 90 mins, but throughout the majority of the game at Chelsea, we were assured and 'in control' eg, there wasnt really a sense of panic or the fans ****ting themselves, feeling like things were going to happen and we couldnt do anything to stop it (eg out of our control). Against Norwich and Swansea, this was very much the case at times. Didnt feel it against Chelsea though.
                              To be honest I felt no different in any of those games

                              They all had a spell of pressure and I always fear the worse when that is the case

                              Lets be honest Chelsea had chances in their spell
                              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                                #90
                                I agree with Craig. Well at least inasmuch as that we picked back up again instead of being poor all 2nd half.

                                I also keep reading the thread title as "Well Well Well Dome Merchants" no matter how many times I come back to it.
                                3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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